How Do I Know When To Cull Angelfish Fry?

Omg I totally want shark Bite!!!!

Agree love the look of that angel.

 

Now.....Sharkbite???? He most definitely should have been culled. But he was (and still is) a very spunky able bodied fish. I couldn't bring myself to cull him. Even though his defect was evident very early on. But I'm definitely doing the responsible thing as far as he is concerned. He will never be bred and he will never be brought to the fish store. And he is a big happy healthy guy with no mobility issues whatsoever. Unfortunately he overcompensates for his deformity by being an incredibly aggressive mean fish. But I still love him.

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Uh oh. Now you're gonna have to breed him with all these requests lol.

bizaliz3 Jocelyn Adelman

I did notice that when I received them the fins were more curled than when they left you, most likely due to the tight space in shipping bags. With all the photos I'm taking, it will be easy to watch this as they grow. At this time, Sparky is the only one with a perfectly straight dorsal fin. Makes me want to go ahead and move everyone to the 75, but I think I should wait.
What Jocelyn mentions in guppies seems a little different. Bent spines seems more detrimental than fins. These guys seem to have absolutely no problem swimming. But pearlscale would be another trait that could be considered undesirable by some.
But for the bent fins, has anything ever come out of the angelfish society about this issue?
As far as breeding/selling them, the issue (IF it's genetic) seems to me to be bigger with the guys with straight fins. They don't show the gene. People buying the bent fin ones know it's there, but not those buying straight. Should it be disclosed?
I'm a long way from breeding anyone myself; everyone is still small. It's been mentioned that my high pH may hinder any eggs from being viable; only time will tell.

But Biz, who all are you seeing with bent fins? Just the blue pearlscale offspring or other spawns as well. Like I said, both Niall and Goldie are showing bent dorsals now, and they are from different spawns, but it may be a symptom from shipping.
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A screenshot of the video Biz sent me to choose. Goldie's dorsal is not perfectly visible, but you can plainly see Niall's dorsal is perfectly straight. Elvis is directly above Goldie, and Sparky is far right, Next to Niall.
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So it appears Niall's fin is from limited space during shipping, not genetic...

Btw angel. Mine breed fine in high ph. However my wood lowers it a little. But you have lots of delicious wood yourself

 

Hi, I didn't have time to read through the whole thread so this may have been said already. When I bred angels and they got a little bend like in your pic I simply scooped them in a net and trimmed it with sterilized scissors. As long as you keep up with the water changes they heal and grow perfect.

Forgot to add that you need to trim before the bend. My veiltails seemed to have this issue the most. I think most of mine possibly happened when I netted them to move to grow out tanks.

 

Forgot to add that you need to trim before the bend. My veiltails seemed to have this issue the most. I think most of mine possibly happened when I netted them to move to grow out tanks.

Does it hurt them? I've heard about it before but it sounds kinda scary! I'd be afraid of hurting them or causing worse damage! And I'm not very steady handed.....lol

 

Does it hurt them? I've heard about it before but it sounds kinda scary! I'd be afraid of hurting them or causing worse damage! And I'm not very steady handed.....lol

No, it didn't seem to. I was bad nervous the first time but it was way better than culling, that would upset me so bad that I was worthless the rest of the day. It's been a while, but I remember dipping them in methlene blue before and after while still in the net. Feel free to ask about it more and look into more so you feel more confident. You can do it!

Oh ya , don't cut straight across it looks funny afterwards, try to curve it some like they are naturally.

 

I recently watched a video on YouTube of someone "grooming" their betta. It would probably be very similar, and a lot quicker. But nerve racking...