How do I breed Nerites

Jerriel
  • #1
I have a pair of male and female nerite snails, thing is I raised them both in freswater and I know they need saltwater for their eggs to grow, I was wondering a few things about this.

1a. can I put both snails in a saltwater setup for them to breed and the eggs to hatch.

1b. would putting them in a saltwater aquarium kill them since they are so used to freshwater

2a. what is brackish water

2b. can I breed them in there and same question as 1b

3a. is there a way to tell if a egg has been fertilized

3b. can I just put the eggs in salt/brackish water instead

3c. I usually clean off my eggs from my tank, but how long can the egg stay in freshwater before putting it in salt/brackish water

4a. will the male only fertalize the eggs in salt/brackish water (therfore meaning I would need both snails in a salt/brackish water setup for the eggs to be fertilized)

4b. can they be moved to freshwater after hatch or do they need to stay in salt/brackish water for some time

4c. how long do they need to stay in salt/brackish if so

5. what do I need to buy to make the water salt/brackish water

5b. since I dont want to really start a saltwater tank (ex; putting clown fish or something like that) and its more just salt/brakish for the purpose of breeding, can I use less stuff then you would normally use in your average salt/brackish tank ?
 
MacZ
  • #2
No results via google?

Up to this point nobody has managed to successfully breed nerite snails. What we know is, that the larvae are taken downstream after hatching, growing in salt or brackish water and then slowly migrating upstream. That's why it's so hard and hasn't worked out yet.
It's impossible to definitely sex them. Hence I doubt you have a pair.

1a. From pure freshwater to saltwater will likely shock and kill them.
1b. see 1a.
2a. Between fresh- and saltwater. Saltconcentration is inbetween the two.
2b. no.
3a. probably, but nobody really knows.
3b. it's hard enough to remove them from surfaces, I doubt you can manage to do this without destroying them.
3c. No idea.
4a. They don't fertilize outside the body. They will have to mate for that.
4b. see text above the list.
4c. Nobody actually knows.

This may also help:
Nerite Snails – Detailed Guide: Care, Diet and Breeding - Shrimp and Snail Breeder
 
Jerriel
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
No results via google?

Up to this point nobody has managed to successfully breed nerite snails. What we know is, that the larvae are taken downstream after hatching, growing in salt or brackish water and then slowly migrating upstream. That's why it's so hard and hasn't worked out yet.
It's impossible to definitely sex them. Hence I doubt you have a pair.

1a. From pure freshwater to saltwater will likely shock and kill them.
1b. see 1a.
2a. Between fresh- and saltwater. Saltconcentration is inbetween the two.
2b. no.
3a. probably, but nobody really knows.
3b. it's hard enough to remove them from surfaces, I doubt you can manage to do this without destroying them.
3c. No idea.
4a. They don't fertilize outside the body. They will have to mate for that.
4b. see text above the list.
4c. Nobody actually knows.

This may also help:
Nerite Snails – Detailed Guide: Care, Diet and Breeding - Shrimp and Snail Breeder
thank you, the reason I think that my Nerites are male and female is because I keep the 2 in separate tanks, and I have had the nerites since late march and only one tank ever gets eggs in it.

my originol plan to move the eggs without breaking them was to put some decoration in the tank have the female lay the eggs on it, have them fertalized and move them, but as you said there is no way to tell if they are fertalized and no one has accomplished breeding them yet..
 
mattgirl
  • #4
Unless all the nerites we buy are wild caught someone is successfully breeding them. I am sure they have to be kept in optimal conditions to do so though. If you are able to provide optional conditions you should be able to do it. Finding and then implementing those optional conditions will be the difficult part.

If I were going to try something like this I would keep male and female together. Once eggs are laid I would move whatever they are attached to over to another tank. I would then very gradually increase the salinity of the water. I would have to do a lot of research to find out how quickly I could raise the salinity and find out how high it needs to be.

This could be a long drawn out experiment and I am sure there will be failures but the reward would be great when you get it right.
 
wishuponafish
  • #5
Allegedly, different species of nerites need different salinities to hatch, so you'll need to do a lot of experimenting since so little is known.
Your plan to move a decoration into a brackish jar or something will probably work, but that might just be the easy part; if you do manage to hatch them, then you'll have the challenge of raising the planktonic larvae which is likely no easy feat.
 
MacZ
  • #6
Unless all the nerites we buy are wild caught

According to at least two different retailers and a wholesaler I talked to they are.
 
mattgirl
  • #7
According to at least two different retailers and a wholesaler I talked to they are.
Thank you. I guess that answers that question
 
Blaze987
  • #8
So I've been researching this pretty intensively for the past month. I just got 7 horned nerites that need to grow up a bit, then I'll be starting some experiments to try and figure this out.

Everything I've seen so far has basically come down to needing brackish hard water, with a lot of calcium. There's been a few people that have said they have bred their nerites, but I haven't seen any proof or updates on the mature snails.

Best of luck! And if you find something, share it! There's a lot of people that would love to know.
 
wishuponafish
  • #9
I have a m&f pair of zebra nerites in my brackish tank@SG1.005 and I often see eggs with tears or holes in them like they hatched or something. (Or maybe they're just old and dead.)
The larvae wouldn't stand a chance of surviving in this tank so I don't ever expect to see any babies but I'm wondering if anyone else sees that in freshwater.
 
mimo91088
  • #10
Don't let these posts about difficulty discourage you btw. I know I can't speak for the others, but I don't think anyone is trying to discourage you from trying. Do some experiments. Who knows, maybe you'll be the one to crack the code.
 
Jerriel
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
Unless all the nerites we buy are wild caught someone is successfully breeding them. I am sure they have to be kept in optimal conditions to do so though. If you are able to provide optional conditions you should be able to do it. Finding and then implementing those optional conditions will be the difficult part.

If I were going to try something like this I would keep male and female together. Once eggs are laid I would move whatever they are attached to over to another tank. I would then very gradually increase the salinity of the water. I would have to do a lot of research to find out how quickly I could raise the salinity and find out how high it needs to be.

This could be a long drawn out experiment and I am sure there will be failures but the reward would be great when you get it right.
Allegedly, different species of nerites need different salinities to hatch, so you'll need to do a lot of experimenting since so little is known.
Your plan to move a decoration into a brackish jar or something will probably work, but that might just be the easy part; if you do manage to hatch them, then you'll have the challenge of raising the planktonic larvae which is likely no easy feat.
So I've been researching this pretty intensively for the past month. I just got 7 horned nerites that need to grow up a bit, then I'll be starting some experiments to try and figure this out.

Everything I've seen so far has basically come down to needing brackish hard water, with a lot of calcium. There's been a few people that have said they have bred their nerites, but I haven't seen any proof or updates on the mature snails.

Best of luck! And if you find something, share it! There's a lot of people that would love to know.
I have a m&f pair of zebra nerites in my brackish tank@SG1.005 and I often see eggs with tears or holes in them like they hatched or something. (Or maybe they're just old and dead.)
The larvae wouldn't stand a chance of surviving in this tank so I don't ever expect to see any babies but I'm wondering if anyone else sees that in freshwater.
Don't let these posts about difficulty discourage you btw. I know I can't speak for the others, but I don't think anyone is trying to discourage you from trying. Do some experiments. Who knows, maybe you'll be the one to crack the code.
Thank you to you all, I think this will be a fun thing to try out and see what I can do, in the mean time I am probably gonna do as much research as I can to emulate how these guys move and live, interesting enough I have family in Perto Rico and I dont rember if its nerite snails but they have many snails in the river the live by, might ask them to help study the snails, might not be nerites, but its something, I did go there recently and they where the same size and looked the same as nerite snails, but that could've been a coincidence, besides that thanks for all the help, will defiantly do my research and experiments and share what I find.
 

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