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AbraCadaver said:
I can’t wait to see what patterns they get!
Same! I'm so excited and I hope we get some lovely kois. Feeding them one cube of those frozen lobster eggs isn't even enough for them anymore so I fed them a cube of that and a cube of bloodworms but I might need to add some more food. I'm feeding them twice a day now. Largest fry are at an inch in length but last week I didnt do a water change for a whole week so that must have slowed down their growth for sure.
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I'm also seeing lots of fry with nipped fins and one even lost a ventral last week but its growing back slowly and just now I noticed one has a quarter of his ventral bitten off and I'm 100% sure it wasn't like that an hour ago

I want to name the two largest fry, any name ideas?
 

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I’d suggest some names but I haven’t even named mine
They’re gorgeous
Mine are finally showing some color, but only a few are “big”
Some just aren’t wanting to grow...
I think it’s because I can’t keep enough brine to feed them... properly... and I only have 17.
So I ordered some micro worms from eBay, lol.
I’m working on my HMPK male koI now... he’s kinda weird... building a nest, wrapping female... but he can’t get his wrap right!
And the poor female just swims around him flaring like, please get these eggs out
Oh!
I wanted to share a method with you for cleaning the waste from tanks... because Bettas poop a lot... lol.
And when they’re small, this really works and helps to not suck any up...
I use a air hose... as a siphon... it’s small, so I can get out a lot of waste in small places without disturbing anything... and to water change with smaller fry, just ass a small air stone to the end of siphon sucking water, use a clip to hang it at the spot you want the water to drain, and it’ll drain without sucking up fry
 
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AbraCadaver said:
I’d suggest some names but I haven’t even named mine
They’re gorgeous
Mine are finally showing some color, but only a few are “big”
Some just aren’t wanting to grow...
I think it’s because I can’t keep enough brine to feed them... properly... and I only have 17.
So I ordered some micro worms from eBay, lol.
I’m working on my HMPK male koI now... he’s kinda weird... building a nest, wrapping female... but he can’t get his wrap right!
And the poor female just swims around him flaring like, please get these eggs out
Oh!
I wanted to share a method with you for cleaning the waste from tanks... because Bettas poop a lot... lol.
And when they’re small, this really works and helps to not suck any up...
I use a air hose... as a siphon... it’s small, so I can get out a lot of waste in small places without disturbing anything... and to water change with smaller fry, just a small air stone to the end of siphon sucking water, use a clip to hang it at the spot you want the water to drain, and it’ll drain without sucking up fry
Thanks for tips! I've actually used the air tubing as a syphon when they were in the 10gal but I can't anymore as the tank has gravel. I doubt microworms have any nutritional value for your betta fry since they have gotten bigger (or are they for other fry?)
 

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They’ll be for the other fry, and just a substitute for my current fry... sometimes my brine don’t have a great hatch rate in time... even though I keep 2 hatcheries. In case of emergency figured it would be good to have a backup
 
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Guys am I seeing correctly?? This fry looks like I can see its ovaries and an egg spot but they're only 46 days old so it's impossible for them to be mature already. The ovaries actually look like tiny eggs more than they do on camera. What are they?
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They look exactly like these pictures
 

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I came to the conclusion that it’ll be easier to do micro worms in the beginning, instead of using all my brine. Brine is hard for me to come by unless I spend an unnecessary amount for it online. Only 1 local store carries eggs and it’s a state over from me. So, I’ll use micro worms at first for next batch then switch to brine and with this batch of fry, I’ll just use them when brine aren’t plentiful
 
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AbraCadaver said:
I came to the conclusion that it’ll be easier to do micro worms in the beginning, instead of using all my brine. Brine is hard for me to come by unless I spend an unnecessary amount for it online. Only 1 local store carries eggs and it’s a state over from me. So, I’ll use micro worms at first for next batch then switch to brine and with this batch of fry, I’ll just use them when brine aren’t plentiful
Be careful not to overfeed with microworms because I've heard from people that their fry had missing ventral fins because of some bacteria in the worms or something idk but it could have been caused by microworms. I didn't do any research on that because I fed them BBS from day 4 up till around day 30 (started to introduce dry foods at around 20 days and started feeding frozen at around 35 when they started to accept flakes)
 

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Be careful not to overfeed with microworms because I've heard from people that their fry had missing ventral fins because of some bacteria in the worms or something idk but it could have been caused by microworms. I didn't do any research on that because I fed them BBS from day 4 up till around day 30 (started to introduce dry foods at around 20 days and started feeding frozen at around 35 when they started to accept flakes)
Mine are over 4 weeks and won’t even look at dry food, but like I said earlier most of them aren’t growing... it’s weird. Idk if it’s a genetic thing or what... that’s worth doing some research on though.
The girl I follow on YouTube (SimplyBetta) uses micro worms the first couple weeks. She actually uses like 4 different foods for different stages. Until I get my fish room upstairs all set up, I won’t be cultivating many cultures of live food lol. My children would have a hay day with it.
My son recently dumped coffee grounds in my 60 :/
Once that’s done ima buy a pair from simply Betta and breed them, and hopefully in a year or two have a few to enter in IBC competitions
 
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AbraCadaver said:
Mine are over 4 weeks and won’t even look at dry food, but like I said earlier most of them aren’t growing... it’s weird. Idk if it’s a genetic thing or what... that’s worth doing some research on though.
The girl I follow on YouTube (SimplyBetta) uses micro worms the first couple weeks. She actually uses like 4 different foods for different stages. Until I get my fish room upstairs all set up, I won’t be cultivating many cultures of live food lol. My children would have a hay day with it.
My son recently dumped coffee grounds in my 60 :/
Once that’s done ima buy a pair from simply Betta and breed them, and hopefully in a year or two have a few to enter in IBC competitions
How often are you doing water changes? And to introduce dry foods I fed them their normal food and normal routine but added a tiny tiny amount of crushed flakes with every feeding. It took them over a week and it was so frustrating just seeing them spit out the flakes all the time but now they'll eat anything that can fit in their mouth
 

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How often are you doing water changes? And to introduce dry foods I fed them their normal food and normal routine but added a tiny tiny amount of crushed flakes with every feeding. It took them over a week and it was so frustrating just seeing them spit out the flakes all the time but now they'll eat anything that can fit in their mouth
I do a 50 once a week and I use the air tubing to do cleanup once a week, and replace the water. The tank they’re in is fully cycled as well.
I’ve been adding flakes but they don’t even look at them, I just add a small bit to test the waters. And the smaller ones have some swim bladder issues still, so when I feed brine I have to put the medicine dropper near the bottom so it’s easier for them to eat them.
 
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AbraCadaver said:
I do a 50 once a week and I use the air tubing to do cleanup once a week, and replace the water. The tank they’re in is fully cycled as well.
I’ve been adding flakes but they don’t even look at them, I just add a small bit to test the waters. And the smaller ones have some swim bladder issues still, so when I feed brine I have to put the medicine dropper near the bottom so it’s easier for them to eat them.
I'm meant to do waterchanges 3 times a week and change about 25% but I never actually get around to doing all 3. Most of mine had swim bladder issues too but just try to feed a little less BBS and they'll all be fine after a few days
 

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I'm meant to do waterchanges 3 times a week and change about 25% but I never actually get around to doing all 3. Most of mine had swim bladder issues too but just try to feed a little less BBS and they'll all be fine after a few days
They’re getting better than they were, some are swimming and such. I’ve read that feeding brine shrimp at first causes swim bladder issues. So I suspected it. The bigger ones seem fine now thouse, one kinda swims upright with its tail dragging though
 
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AbraCadaver said:
They’re getting better than they were, some are swimming and such. I’ve read that feeding brine shrimp at first causes swim bladder issues. So I suspected it. The bigger ones seem fine now thouse, one kinda swims upright with its tail dragging though
The tail dragging fry has SwI'm Bladder Disorder whilst the ones that float have SwI'm Bladder Disease

Watch these 3 short videos, these are just 3 of my favourite fry so far. (I namrd them)
 
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Look who's just started to change colours!!
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That fry changed colours again and I can't even tell which one he is now

Ok nevermind, he was just hiding
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KoiBettas said:
Look at the white fry in the bottom of the photo with the white face, so cute!
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I counted them and there's around 180, here's a photo (there were still like 50 of them in the aquarium so they don't shoe in the r photo)
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How old is this group of Betta's? So cute!
 
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Joyceheatherington said:
How old is this group of Betta's? So cute!
They hatched on 1st April so they are 2 months and 1 day today
 
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Joyceheatherington said:
Cute, Thanks. Makes me think that the one I got is 2 months or so!
If its the crowntail female you posted a photo of, I'd say she's more around 3 months
 

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If its the crowntail female you posted a photo of, I'd say she's more around 3 months
Yay, Thank you! I knew that you would know breeding Betta's! I forgot to ask the guy when was at the place yesterday how old the Tetras are. There no way to really know.

Thank you so much I love following your post!
 

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I like the first one! Ive been following this thread and ur babies sure turned out pretty!
 
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JamieLu said:
I like the first one! Ive been following this thread and ur babies sure turned out pretty!
Thanks! He's my favourite aswell but so far everyone prefers the red one.

Looks like somebody's got the hand of bubblenests already! The jarred males are all making nests but they're not really well structured yet.
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Just an updated photo of that fry
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And a few other males I've jarred
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Do u think the all white ones will get more colors at some point? Theyre all so pretty
 
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JamieLu said:
Do u think the all white ones will get more colors at some point? Theyre all so pretty
I'm really not sure. I had quite a few who did and became blue and red but I've still got quite a few males and females who are all white and aren't really showing any signs that they might change colour soon. (They're not really like platinum white but its still kind of white)and the males have red/orange gills.
 

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That's so cool! I haven't read through all the posts here, did you say what you're going to do with the fry?

I'd love to breed my male, but that's not a project I can do right now. I have no space.
 
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That's so cool! I haven't read through all the posts here, did you say what you're going to do with the fry?

I'd love to breed my male, but that's not a project I can do right now. I have no space.
I've already sold about 50 of them and some of my best males. I planned to keep them for longer and breed a pair but can't due to some changes.
 

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