Yeah you should check out Aquabid.com people sell fish on there all the time. Several people here do too. That's where I just got my new fish.
you can get the packing supplies from officemax or officedepot. You can get boxes from the post office for free (flat rate boxes). You can get breather bags, bag buddies, etc from some LFS or from aquabid, or kens fish
Are you a breeder? I will make you a deal........ Peacocks are free if you think you could eventually help me find a way to sell my angels.
Shipping fish would scare my a bit....
Just kidding of course.
Move to Australia and I'll take 4 or 5 peacocks!
I was going to ask you personally about that. I noticed that you prefer to ship weight vs flat rate. I have a postage scale already, I bought one to divide up my bulk fish food for individual bagging.I buy sheets of foam insulation from Home Depot. I just cut the pieces to fit inside each box. They don't seem to stock my favorite boxes at the post office, so I order mine from usps.com. It's free. I like the 7x7x6 boxes for shipping small fish, and I like the 12x12x8 for larger fish. If you have a postal scale, you can save yourself (and your customers) money by shipping by weight rather than using flat rate boxes- it is almost always cheaper. It is cheaper to print postage labels online than it is to buy them in person.
I *think* my dad had a welding setup with acetylene and oxygen tanks, I'm going to go check tomorrow in storage and see if it's still there, someone may have gotten it though. Either way, I'm going to get a tank if needed.As far as bagging and shipping, you'll want to use as little water as possible. Fish are much more likely to die from lack of oxygen than from water parameters. Before I got my oxygen tank I shipped 1/3 water and 2/3 air. It's less of an issue now that I have an oxygen tank. You can buy one from a welding supply company and get the regulator from a medical supply company.
I double bag all fish and plants. I have a variety of sizes of fish bags that I use. 2 mil thickness is good for smaller fish- they can get stuck in the folds of the 3 mil bags. 3 mil bags are great if you're shipping something a little bigger.
I was going to ask you personally about that. I noticed that you prefer to ship weight vs flat rate. I have a postage scale already, I bought one to divide up my bulk fish food for individual bagging.
7x7x6 sounds good to me. What is a guesstimated weight on that?
I *think* my dad had a welding setup with acetylene and oxygen tanks, I'm going to go check tomorrow in storage and see if it's still there, someone may have gotten it though. Either way, I'm going to get a tank if needed.
Now that you are using o2 how much water to air ratio do you use?
Everything I am shipping is going to be juvenile, all smaller species, ebrs, gudgeons, corys, danios, etc. I reckon I should go with the 2mil bags. I was planning to order the 3 mil but I didn't know about the fish getting stuck in the folds.
Also, what size 2mil bags do you use? I'm guessing the 4" x18" are the best, but they have a ton of options.
Thanks for all your help!
My postal scale only goes up to 5 lbs, so anything above that and I'm standing in line at the post office, lol. If you're shipping all small fish, this is almost never going to be an issue for you. Generally, the 7x7x6 box weighs up to 2 lbs or a teeny bit more if it's very full. Often, it's less. Once you do enough shipping, you'll be able to estimate the weight before you pack and the postage calculator on usps.com is really helpful there.
You don't need an O2 tank by any means, and I didn't have any issues before I got it, but for me it is a great peace of mind. I am confident in shipping more sensitive fish now too. I still do about 1/3 and 2/3, although sometimes it is closer to half and half. With O2 in those shipping bags I know they won't be running out of O2 over a 2-3 day trip if packed well. For my little fish, I use either 4x12 bags or 6x12 bags, each 2 mil. The 4's are really pretty small so I use them mostly for plants. The 6's are great for small fish IMO.
Oh BTW, the Priority boxes are kind of slow getting to you, like maybe a week or more, so the sooner you create an account there and put your order in, the better!
the breather bags are thin....but I tried to see how hard i'd have to pull to tear one, and it was pretty hard.....it took more pulling than one might think. I have received some things in those with no issues. I also have breather bags for shipping out my snails.
but if a little bag is going to be riding in an insulated box, and not touched or pulled along the way......the bags should be safe just sitting there right? idk lol
I would think so, possibly leak test the bag beforehand for a few hours while prepping the fish for travel just to be safe. Only other issue is sharp fins, like on catfish.
One of my concerns was after receiving my group of black corys and losing a couple, was that they might need some air space to gulp air if needed.
However after some research I think the most likely issue was self poisoning.
When I start sending out shrimp or any really small fry I am likely going to use breather bags.
I've heard about this as well. We had a cory expert come speak at one of our club meetings, and he gave us some shipping tips that pertain specifically to corys. When you catch the fish out of the tank, tap on the container and stress them out. Give them a few minutes to release those toxins, then strain out the water through a net and replace with tank water. At that point you can go ahead and bag. It always makes me feel bad to stress corys intentionally, but I'm happy to say I haven't lost a single one in transit.
Breather bags are good for fry or shrimp. I don't use them for anything else.