Hifin Sharks???

kerryve

HI guys,
I went to the LFS with my hubby, he fell in love with this shark looking thing, it was at least 45cm big, the guy at the shop said it was a hifin shark, anyone know what that is or what their water specifications are? He was quite majestic though!
 

kerryve

I also noticed he had a latin name, as soon as I get hold of it ill post it, I think a hifin shark is just a general term. Ill keep you posted though.
 

atmmachine816

I believe it's a chinese high fin banded shark, gets rather large easily over a foot, google the name and you should come up with lot's of good reading.
 

kerryve

Its a Hifin Pingasus Shark... Ill google both and see what I come up with. Thanks!

Kerry
 

Jason

Those things get massive, only suitable while young really
 

kerryve

Yeah that's the point, my husband insisted on a 300g tank, he wants big and odd fish! typical. hehe, need something to fill the tank, I think if I had little fish in there id see them and wave goodbye after they leave their plastic bags! And ill definitely only be getting one of them, messy fish apparently.
 

Puppypower

Heya

Well, if you want big fish in your tank, & you'd like a shark, get a Black Shark, & a Blue Shark, maybe some silver's/Bala's.

Then a couple of big cichlids, or give the tank to me lol

Pupps
 

kerryve

atmmachine816

cool I think they are sweet fish, you know a really cool fish, check this out it looks pretty sweet in person.
 

Puppypower

Yea they're alright, I reckon that they do look better in person but, as you said.

Nice choices kerry
 

kerryve

That's not him though, hes a hifin pangasius, hes on the top left and you can see his reflection on the right. Hes very fast and doesn't "swim" still to take a decent photo.
 

atmmachine816

Cool oscar, and shark, do you think you can take a full tank shot? Puppypower I take it you like Freshwater sharks?
 

Peter243243

Cool Oscar, and shark, do you think you can take a full tank shot?  Puppypower I take it you like Freshwater sharks?

well below his avatar it says she likes aggressive fish.
 

atmmachine816

Cool Oscar, and shark, do you think you can take a full tank shot?  Puppypower I take it you like Freshwater sharks?

well below her avatar it says she likes aggressive fish.

Psst. he's a guy, and yes I think he does like sharks.
 

Peter243243

Um.. sorry with the picture I assumed that...  . I'll edit it.
I'm very sorry for that.
 

kerryve

I haven't got a full pic on my computer with all the fish in, ill post it tomorrow morning, must just remember to take my cameral to work.

My shark isn't aggressive at all, I think he hardly notices that hes got tankmates, I think hes practially blind.

Thanks, I take great pride in my Oscars, theyre so easy to love!
 

kerryve

Cool oscar, and shark, do you think you can take a full tank shot?

atm, here it is...
 

Golden Fish

WOW Kerryve!!!!!!! Awesome. Is that captian cook? He makes the 300g seem small! LOL.
 

atmmachine816

That's a sweet tank
 

kerryve

No that's astrodam, hes 16" captain cook is behind him in all the photos. he seems to hide behind him alot!
 

Puppypower

LOL, yeh I love sharks lol, could you tell ? Yeh i'm a guy lol.

Sorry I haven't been on for a while, I now need to update my siggI
 

punkrockviolet5

I've been reading other posts today and noticed some of you purchase your Betta fish online. How do they ship them? Wouldn't they be beaten to death in the process (shaken fishy syndrome)? Kinda makes my stomach hurt thinking of buying one that needs to be shipped. What are your thoughts on the matter?
 

Phloxface

I know a lot of people have them shipped successfully, but I personally couldn't do it. It horrifies me to see the tiny baggies they put them in (the fish can't even turn around) and the thought of the poor thing being in the complete dark, terrified and being thrown about by delivery people. Just because someone knows there is a fish in there doesn't mean they care. (I know the people I work with are like that. They constantly throw garbage and stuff into the office fish tank and I am always taking things out to save the fish. They think it's funny and don't believe fish matter)
I know I would be devastated if a fish arrived dead. I would blame myself for ordering it. Plus, I just feel so bad for the pet store Bettas. It makes me feel good to rescue them.
 

Dino

I package fish so that they could survive a war.

Double or triple bagged, packaging around the bags and heavy cardboard boxes if not plastic boxes or plastic picnic coolers.

Since most fish I ship arrive within 24 hours, they spend less time traveling from me to the purchaser than do the fish that go from Florida ( for those here in the states) to your local fish store.

I cannot imagine the flights are any worse from a Florida fish farm to lfs, than they are from breeder to individual purchaser.
 

Phloxface

I understand the logic, still I just don't want to see the fish in a small bag, inside a dark box knowing it spent 24 hours travelling through the mail. It's as horrifying to me as it would be for someone who loves kids to adopt a baby from another country and have the baby shipped in a dark box with air. The kid could survive, but no one would think it was humane.
Ideally I would prefer to have a local breeder that I could go to and pick out my fish and take it home with as little trauma as possible.
Too bad breeder can't just "open up shop" even a couple times a week and let people come and buy fish directly. People will drive hundreds of miles to pick up a purebred puppy from a breeding kennel.
 

punkrockviolet5

I package fish so that they could survive a war.

Double or triple bagged, packaging around the bags and heavy cardboard boxes if not plastic boxes or plastic picnic coolers.

Since most fish I ship arrive within 24 hours, they spend less time traveling from me to the purchaser than do the fish that go from Florida ( for those here in the states) to your local fish store.

I cannot imagine the flights are any worse from a Florida fish farm to lfs, than they are from breeder to individual purchaser.

That makes a lot of sense. The shipping method is the same as the larger "Deathcos" and such. If all fish retailers were more like you, I don't think I would even have needed to ask the question. I guess research really is the answer. Buying form a reputable source is the way to go when you want a really exotic Betta. Even in So Cal, they are hard to come by. Thanks again!

I understand the logic, still I just don't want to see the fish in a small bag, inside a dark box knowing it spent 24 hours travelling through the mail. It's as horrifying to me as it would be for someone who loves kids to adopt a baby from another country and have the baby shipped in a dark box with air. The kid could survive, but no one would think it was humane.
Ideally I would prefer to have a local breeder that I could go to and pick out my fish and take it home with as little trauma as possible.
Too bad breeder can't just "open up shop" even a couple times a week and let people come and buy fish directly. People will drive hundreds of miles to pick up a purebred puppy from a breeding kennel.

I don't know... I wonder if the dark would even bother them. It is such a short time, if you purchase from responsible individuals who care for and over prepare for the trip. For someone, who really cares about fish, to sell them over and over knowing they're dying doesn't sound right to me. There must be a magick to it and I'm betting these people have found it.

I can see your logic with a child, as children understand and process things differently. The experience could be scarring. I have yet to see this result in the fish but hey, you never know! We do not need a world of over-xanazed fish!


Thank you both. Got what I was looking for!
 

punkrockviolet5

Hey Dino,

Do you have a link??

Thx!
 

COBettaCouple

I package fish so that they could survive a war.
That's the truth!! When I got a box of shrimp and plants from Dino recently I was impressed with the solidness of the packing job!

I understand the logic, still I just don't want to see the fish in a small bag, inside a dark box knowing it spent 24 hours travelling through the mail.
that's why I'll take our bettas with me when I fly. I figure that will give them less time in their bags than overnighting.
 

Phloxface

Do they let you take the Bettas with you as carry-on luggage or make you put them in the back with the regular luggage? I may someday be moving across the country and will not ship my Bettas no matter what. I'd have to leave them behind with my brother but if I could hold them on my lap on the plane and make sure they are okay then I"d take them.
 

Dino

Currently, it is not possible to carry fish with you on a public plane.
 

COBettaCouple

yea, because the TSA is completely idiotic they protect us from explosive bettas > and won't let me carry them on. So i'm forced to pack them up and put the box in a suitcase thanks to the moronic way the TSA steps all over us in enforcing a completely inconsistent bunch of ridiculous rules.
 

chickadee

I have only had one fish who had a bad reaction to being shipped and that little guy was afraid of the dark and was the whole time I owned him. He made me sleep with the TV on and I even went out and bought him his own portable DVD player to try to settle him down. Otherwise, they have been shipped with great care in six pack coolers and triple bagged or double bagged with heat or cold packs and the people I buy from are humane enough to refuse to ship in poor weather conditions. They are prepared to ship before shipping and sometimes the smaller bags are more protective than giving them a large bag to be really thrown about in. The bags are not like them being put in a stiff sided container as they are padded and soft sided and even if they hit the side of the bag it will not hurt them. I have never had a fish arrive injured and with proper acclimatization they are the most healthy little fellows. They are a joy to own.

Rose
 

Beeboy

I have a very bad local pet shop with very small variety. I know I can order fish to be shipped over the internet but I wasn't sure if that would harm them. According to my research they are knocked out with a drug and lain on wet sponges with some aeration method. Will they be okay afterwords?

Beeboy
 

Chief_waterchanger

We actually do not order from anyone who uses bag-buddies (aka the method with sponges soaked in tranquilizer.) It is harder for fish to recover from tranquilizer. We have successfully shipped fish by just putting them in the fish bags with water, in a styro or cooler with plenty of shipping paper/cushy materials and taped securely.
 

Butterfly

I have ordered fish from aquabid and they did just fine being shipped in bags of water.
Carol
 

COBettaCouple

that sounds like a dangerous way to ship fish. ???
 

Beeboy

I'm glad that not all online shops tranquilize them. In town there is a really bad shop and there is another 4 hours away. I think shipping might be the only way for me to get good fish. Thanks for telling me about aquabid.

Beeboy
 

susitna-flower

I know I can order fish to be shipped over the internet but I wasn't sure if that would harm them.

Beeboy

I have been wondering, how can you order fish to be shipped over the internet? Our US. Senator Ted Stevens made the news this past winter when he was explaining to news reporters how e-mails get backed up, cause the internet is like a tube! Is that it?

Actually Beeboy, I just made my first aquabid purchase yesterday!!! It was fun, and easy, and time will tell how the fish do in transit. I feel like the folks I am buying from know quite a bit about fish, so if it works, I'll have some lovely fish that aren't available around here!

Good Luck
Fish in the Frozen North
 

Beeboy

Thanks a lot for all the help. This forum rocks!

Beeboy
 

COBettaCouple

we'll be shipping all of our fish overnight to Denver and with the help & advice that Dino has given us, expect them to get there safely. If a seller packs the way that Dino does, it's a safe way for the fish to travel.
 

susitna-flower

This sounds easier than traveling with small children........Hummmmmmmmm, Maybe that is an idea! Pack them and ship them overnight!
This is coming up soon isn't it? Well I wish you all good travels, and will know soon how it all goes. Do you have a place all picked out in Denver? It seems like even if the shipping is overnight, on the other end there could be some delay before you could be ready to unpack your fish....Hope it all works out.

Fish in the Frozen North
 

COBettaCouple

we'll have some large storage containers there and I'll be taking azoo palm filters and visitherm stealth heaters for each one, so as soon as I get them, they can start getting acclimated.
 

Chief_waterchanger

To go through USPS they have to be children under 70 lbs. And must be real quiet... so club em first?
 

susitna-flower

AND fit in a box under 108 " !

I used to work at a Post Office, and one day, one of the boxes waiting to be picked up started making a noise. Come to find out someone had shipped their alarm clock, and it accidently went off!!! If you don't think we were surprised!

Well if the kids wake up! I can just see it now......

Fish in the Frozen North
 

Chief_waterchanger

My very best friend is nearing retirement from Postal Service, I hear all sorts of stories. Like an entire metropolitan post office shutting down due to a leaky package of microworms. (The package was packed extra well, it was negligence of postal workers that caused it, but still. )
 

Aquaman123456

I was wondering how would one bring fish back from foreign countries like Hong Kong and if anyone knows the general shipping costs.
 

lew2000

That is an interesting question. Bringing back your own fish? Having someone send a fish? LIvestock importers exporters have to have licensing, and there are restrictions on what can be imported into the US. I found this out when I tried to DIY from Canada. There are forms, filings and fees because it is livestock. I found the easiest way was to go through a loacl LFS who kenw the process and let them deal with it. It was a KOI I wanted from a private seller. But it was still expensive, but it sure beat the time I was going to have to spend myself.
 

Aquaman123456

Yeah but if you buy the fish yourself extremely cheap from hong kong. But once you can set up a good shipper its really worth it.
 

lew2000

I would agree if it is a species that you can't find on the net or like me yuou want that particular one. Again, I would make sure that customs is going to allow that species into the USA if it isn't a common type fish already allowed.
 

Scout

Does anyone have any suggestions for shipping small tropical fish, like corydoras?

So far, what I've heard is something about getting styrofoam to insulate the box and putting the fish in one of those fish bags like what you get from the pet shops.

What do I need to know?
 

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