Help with oranda goldfish

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Hi, I’m truly Just losing hope at the moment.
I have a almost 2 year old female oranda displaying some symptoms that every time I try and treat nothing ever works. Every tI’m so think she is getting better she gets worse and I just don’t know what to do. At the moment she has scales sticking out like a pinecone (dropsy) and she’s breathing heavy and isn’t swimming at all or eating. it all started because my ammonia spiked and she got susceptible to something that basically stopped her swimming. My parameters are perfect now and have been for weeks. I have 0 nitrite and 0 ammonia. Nothing bad is in the water but she is not getting better.
im treating her with magnesium sulfate salt at the moment started on the 25th October. 1 tsp per gallon And I have temp up to just below 80f.
im genuinely begging anyone to help me because if I lose this fish I don’t know how I could cope.
the most baffling thing is about a few weeks ago I treated her for parasites and flukes and nothing responded and yet she’s just getting worse I just don’t know what to do
below is a photo attached

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I know she looks bad and I promise I take so much care of her I just don’t know what’s wrong or how to help.
 

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She had swim bladder issues beginning of September and they went away and I was so sure she would be fine and now I’m just so worried she’s in pain or that she will die
 

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Atm I’m pretty sure she has dropsy and possibly liver failure due to her looking slightly yellow but I just am at a loss
 
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Please can anyone help me?
 
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Poor fishy, I'm so sorry. It sucks when you do all you can and stuff still goes wrong. You may want to uh, help her go sleepy. I dont think she's gonna come back by the way she looks in the pic. Looks like a combo of things going on. You said your tank was at 80 degrees? Goldfish are coldwater... I would think that's a bit high....I'm no expert though but just a thought. Sorry again for what's going on wish I could be more helpful
 
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NevermindIgnoreMe can you help here? I am just starting with fancies myself, but tagging someone who has more experience. I personally have never recovered a fish from dropsy. so sad she - looks really uncomfy. What caused your ammonia spike and do you know how long it was up? Ammonia is really bad for their gills and can cause damage that lasts after the water is corrected. Without more info that is my first suspicion...
 

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NevermindIgnoreMe can you help here? I am just starting with fancies myself, but tagging someone who has more experience. I personally have never recovered a fish from dropsy. so sad she - looks really uncomfy. What caused your ammonia spike and do you know how long it was up? Ammonia is really bad for their gills and can cause damage that lasts after the water is corrected. Without more info that is my first suspicion...
I still have no idea what caused the ammonia to spike, I was testing ammonia around every 2 days and one time is just showed up to be like 0.75ppm which is obviously really high, but it went back to normal after I cleaned out the water and everything. A few weeks ago I thought she might have flukes since she was lethargic and had abnormal sores and rapid breathing and flashing but I treated with flubendazole for about 2 weeks and nothing changed so I sort of was left stumped because she clearly wasn’t in perfect health but at mid October she was literally only not swimming that was it. And then she started to develop pine cone scales and I think I waited too long.
 
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Don’t worry about it anymore. She’s died
 
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I'm so sorry, I wish I could've been able to help. But most of the time when dealing with dropsied fancies recovery is rare, being such fragile fish. I wish you the best, she will now swim in peace.
 
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I'm so sorry, I wish I could've been able to help. But most of the time when dealing with dropsied fancies recovery is rare, being such fragile fish. I wish you the best, she will now swim in peace.
I too just saw this thread. I agree with NevermindIgnoreMe . Dropsy is a symptom rather than a specific disease. Something causes the kidneys to fail and the fish can't regulate fluids. By the time we catch it with the pineconing the organs have been failing for some time already. So even if by some miracle we manage to diagnose and treat the root cause, it's not like you can give the fish a kidney transplant or dialysis treatment. Don't kick yourself too hard. There's very likely nothing you could have done.
 

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