Help With Not-feeder Guppies

parxs
  • #1
I was at a chain pet store near me to pick up some Flourish and peeked into the tanks and in with the feeder ghost shrimp was a very large female guppy and a few new babies swimming around. I couldnt leave her there (curse my compassion) and I bought the mom figuring id give any unborn babies a home, well I felt really bad about leaving the babies she had already given birth to so I went back the next day to get those babies and when I looked in the feeder guppy tank there were a bunch of little least killifish swimming around. I asked to get the little babies and 10 of the killis but when I was getting the killis I ended up with 3 young guppies as well. I don't have an actual QT setup so I put the guppies in a vase and the killis went into my shrimp tank with no other fish.

My problem is it has been 3 days and the mother guppy has not given birth to anymore fry but she is otherwise healthy. However, the 3 juvies all have clamped fins, 2 look like they might have a little fuzz on top of their heads/back and they are all very thin (though I haven't seen a guppy from a feeder tank that's fat and not pregnant) I don't know what the ammonia from their tank was but I'm doing water changes in the vase to keep ammonia down and its currently below .25 I started treating the vase with malachite green/formalin but I don't remember if that works on anything other than parasites?

Is there anything else I should be doing, should I do a 100% water change and start treating with salt? (I did a 50% this morning so it shouldnt be too stressful) Is it likely that the mother aborted the babies she didnt give birth to yet or is she just holding them? Also she isn't eating and seems quite stressed, other than that she seems healthy could I move her to my main tank (only other feeder guppies, a betta, and a nerite) so she would have more fish around her and wouldnt be as stressed? How long should it take for the juvies to recover from the ammonia if they are clamped up from that?
 
Dave125g
  • #2
If they recover from that, it should only take a few days. When doing your water changes are you matching the temperature of the new water?
 
parxs
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
I forgot to add that the maybe fuzzies look more like slightly raised scales almost like a minor injury and its more on 1 juvI than the other

As best I can yes, its been a little cooler than the tank/vase temp but not by much.
 
Dave125g
  • #4
Yea they should recover nicely then. Keep a close eye on those injures incase they get infected.
 
parxs
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
The mom had her babies (26 but 1 died pretty soon after birth) and dhe and the babies are all settled in tanks, not the vase. The 3 juvies though are still having some problems with the clamped fins, 1 seems to have unclamped but they will clamp up off and on, the other twos fins are just so tight I don't understand it. I finished up the malachite green/formalin treatment and have started to dose them with salt but other than the clamped fins they seem fine. Some of my other feeders from the same store are very sensitive to ammonia and will start to clamp I ammonia reaches .25 but theyve had almost 0 ammonia in their water for nearly a week now and are still having trouble. One of thems fins are so tight you can't even see them and she can hardly swim. If theyre sick I don't want to add them to the main tank but it also seems like that might be the best option for them, guppies can get so much better when they are around other guppies and plants. What should I do?
 
Whitewolf
  • #6
The mom had her babies (26 but 1 died pretty soon after birth) and dhe and the babies are all settled in tanks, not the vase. The 3 juvies though are still having some problems with the clamped fins, 1 seems to have unclamped but they will clamp up off and on, the other twos fins are just so tight I don't understand it. I finished up the malachite green/formalin treatment and have started to dose them with salt but other than the clamped fins they seem fine. Some of my other feeders from the same store are very sensitive to ammonia and will start to clamp I ammonia reaches .25 but theyve had almost 0 ammonia in their water for nearly a week now and are still having trouble. One of thems fins are so tight you can't even see them and she can hardly swim. If theyre sick I don't want to add them to the main tank but it also seems like that might be the best option for them, guppies can get so much better when they are around other guppies and plants. What should I do?
So you want to treat clamping up on fry with salt and acriflavine, you can find it at walmart under the name "parasite clear"
 

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