Help With Ich

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    GuppyLover12 New Member Member

    Hey all!

    So I've had my tank for nearly 5 months now, everything has been fine up until just over a week ago I got some neon tetras and they all rapidly died, I'm thinking they already had ich! And gave my other fish it too. Anyway I now have 2 guppies and 2 zebra danios, I am currently treating the tank with ich treatment and salt. I also raised the temperate for the first few days. The ich dropped off my fish and everything seemed to be getting better but since yesterday all 4 have been hanging out at the top corner of the tank. Does anyone know what it could be, is it the medication or the salt? The water levels seem fine. I really don't want to lose anymore fish. :(
     
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    bkaiser3 Well Known Member Member

    Using meds with heat doesnt usually work. Need to use 1 or other. The heat is the best IMO. The spots "fell off" but are still in the tank. You have to do regular water changes and gravel vacs to remove them

    But as far as the fish at the top corner, this could be because when you raise the temp of the tank the oxygen levels in the tank drop to dangerous levels. You need to reoxygenate the water with either powerheads or airstones.
     
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    GuppyLover12 New Member Member

    I don't have the heat up anymore, I know the parasites are still in the tank I have to keep treating to kill them. I have 2 airstones and the filter current. They are not gasping for air they are just hanging below the surface.
     


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    bkaiser3 Well Known Member Member

    Im not sure then. Ive never used meds. So i cannot comment on if that is somehow involved with why they are at the surface
     
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    GuppyLover12 New Member Member

    Oh gosh I'm so worried. :(
    I just don't know what to do for them.
     
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    Discusluv Well Known Member Member

    While using Ich meds you do not want to use heat or salt. How much salt did you use and how high did you put up heat? What medication are you using?
     


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    GuppyLover12 New Member Member

    Really? The place we got the fish from told us to use salt, medication and heat! But I turned the heat down as I felt it was just too much for the fish to have all that.
    I put 1 spoon of salt and medication the first day then after 48 hours I changed the water, added a spoon of salt and medication again and the same 48 hours after that which is today. Have I put too much salt?!
     
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    Racing1113 Well Known Member Member

    I agree with Discus. With ich you need to pick one treatment to follow. Using meds, heat, and salt all at the same time was likely very harsh and stressful for your fish. You may just be seeing the effects of it all catching up to them.

    What do you mean by a "spoon" of salt? A teaspoon? Tablespoon? Regular spoon that you eat with?
     
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    Discusluv Well Known Member Member

    No, Im sorry, that puts a huge amount of respiratory and metabolic stress on a fish.
    Yes, we often get people that say that they are directed to do this by aquarium "specialists."
    Terrible advice.

    How much water did you change between doses. How much salt have you added in total?

    By the way, I am glad you were perceptive enough to realize that all these methods in combination were wrong despite the advice you were given ;)
     
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    GuppyLover12 New Member Member

    I meant a tablespoon.

    I often see people say that the aquarium specialists give terrible advice but why would they do that? They don't know what they are doing or what? Just trying to get money? I don't understand why someone would do that when it's to do with something that is living! Its just awful.
    My fish are under enough stress as is! :(
     
  11. R

    Racing1113 Well Known Member Member

    What size is your tank?
     
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    Discusluv Well Known Member Member

    In this case, I would say a lack of education is the motivating factor.

    I would recommend doing a 75% water change ( dont worry, it wont hurt your fish) to get the salt out of the water.
    I would then add back the Ich medication ( but, just appx. 75% of the recommended dose).
    Is it a liquid medication?
    I think this may help...
    Edit: Remember to de-chlorinate!
     
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    GuppyLover12 New Member Member

    So I did a 75% water change and added the water conditioner! The guppies are a lot better today, they are swimming around like usual but my 2 danios are hanging near the bottom now just hovering in one spot..