Help With A Sick Goldfish

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    SaveThemAll1 Valued Member Member

    Hi. I have a 110 L tank with 3 small "fancy" goldfish. THe water parameters are fine ,(NH4 NO3 NO2), there is a 1400 L/H External filter and 350 LH internal filter. The tank is about 1 mounth old and the backround story is that a few days after I started the tank the fiish started to poop white poo. they were recieveing very high protein food for the first 5 days and switched to normal goldfish food. The first thing I did was to stop feeding them for 3 days and then gave them pea for 3 more days. 3 of the fish showed improvement but 4 didn't,so I started treatment with metro. second days of the treatment the fish passed away. Now we are 2 weeks after and 2 days ago one of the fish was crawling on the bottom of the tank having a really hard time to keep himself straight , not to mention swimming.. ive got arecommendation to give him a salt bath and so I did. yesterday the fish showed improvement, swimming around, still looking less active , but much better. I have no idea if the salt has anything to do with it. today he looks a bit worse.. he still looks much better then the first day of illness but he seems a bit weaker then yesterday. he also has a weired shape in his belly, its like his chest a bit puffed, then theres a narrow part and then at rear part of the belly puffed again, also his scales a bit piney.Another thing is today I saw different fish sitting on the bottom, when I got closed he started to swimm like everything is ok, but then I saw it again a few hours later. I have a bad feeling about this , I really appreciate your help. I really want them to be happy and feel good, please share any info you know. PS my English isn't the best so if something isn't clear then please note or ask, TY

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    SaveThemAll1 Valued Member Member

    Ive just noticed that he has a tiny red dot on his belly near his pectoral fin, does might indicate something?
     
  3. Mothercrow

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    SaveThemAll1 Valued Member Member

    Right now the symptoms isnt the white poop as much as its the swim bladder problem, i think theres a chance that an infection caused fluids to accumilate inside the bladder
     
  5. OP
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    SaveThemAll1 Valued Member Member

    He is looking much worse today, and his scales are like pine. theres another fish on the tank who seems to develope the same symptoms, he seems a bit weaker and has pine scales.. iv tried to look for kanaplex or other kanamycin products but i think it isnt available in my country. do you have suggestions? other meds that might help?
     
  6. r.john0901

    r.john0901 New Member Member

    MELAFIX just try it, anti-biotic so it might help..
     


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    SaveThemAll1 Valued Member Member

    is it suitable for this condition? any evidence that its helping treating dropsy?
     
  8. JesseMoreira06

    JesseMoreira06 Well Known Member Member

    If it's pine conning , you'll need kanaplex, Metroplex and Epsom salt. it's the best treatment for Dropsy. It's best to bring the tank temp to 80F and also dose the aquarium with EPSOM salt 1/8 tsp per 5g of water.
     
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    SaveThemAll1 Valued Member Member

    like i said there isnt any available here, no kanaplex and for metroplex, i already treated the tank with metro
     
  10. JesseMoreira06

    JesseMoreira06 Well Known Member Member

    you'll need both to treat at the same time. Try ordering it online through Amazon and get it shipped fast. How long did you treat with metroplex ?
     
  11. JesseMoreira06

    JesseMoreira06 Well Known Member Member

    This is what I would do , I would order Seachem Kanaplex through Amazon and get it shipped as fast as possible then I would do these steps for now until it arrives. I would raise tank temp to 80F , add in an air stone for extra surface agitation to create more oxygen for your goldies , I would then get some Epsom salt NOT aquarium salt very important. Dose the tank with natural Epsom salt 1/8 tsp per every 5g of water, then dose Seachem Metroplex , every 48 hours do a 50% water change and re dose Metroplex and re add epsom salt for the amount of water token out. Once kanaplex arrives dose kanaplex and metroplex together and continue steps.

    Metroplex can be given for up to 3 weeks , but Kanaplex should only be given for 3 treatments which is 6 days sometimes a 2nd treatment of kanaplex is needed which is okay but if after 2 treatments of kanaplex 12 days , you have to stop using it.
     
  12. r.john0901

    r.john0901 New Member Member

    It's an antibiotic, if it doesn't work, nothing bad will happen from using it, sure your cycle might get a tad out of place but not majorly. Better to try it than not.
     
  13. KinsKicks

    KinsKicks Fishlore VIP Member

    Tbh, Melafix isn't really a strong med or a med at all. the only active ingredient is cajeput/tea tree oil. This hasn't been proven to be an actual combatant/cure against any bacterial problem that may arise. What it could do is after the recovery, it could make external wounds "cleaner" and less subjugated to a secondary/subsequent infection (although, pristine water does the same thin) It's really an antiseptic at best. It doesn't do anything towards inhibiting or killing the growth of the bacteria. (In fact, in higher doses, the particular blend of the tee tree oils can act as an anesthetic to the point of death, much like clove oil is used for euthanasia)

    You are better off going with the advice @JesseMoreira06 has given.

    Edit: sorry I meant sedative, not anesthetic
     
  14. r.john0901

    r.john0901 New Member Member

    Actually, not to start a debate, but I've been studying tee tree oil in medical sciences and it has been proven to help ward off bacteria and parasitic/pests. Hence why people use it as a lice treatment, and why it's used in antibacterial swabs/wipes, just like Iodine, but way less strength. And on the hand on an anaesthetic, that's what the tea tree oil does, it anaesthetises the bacteria to the point of death.
     
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    SaveThemAll1 Valued Member Member

    Since I felt theres no time to waste I decided to start today a treatment with a med call Furanol of JBL. I read that it should have similar effect like kanaplex since its designed against the same group of bacteria. the fish is in a very bad state, I don't thing theres time to wate for shipments. about the metro, I already finished treating with it twice with no results so I'm stopping for now.is someone familiar with Furanol? have any opinions about it?
     
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    SaveThemAll1 Valued Member Member

    Hi, im still looking for further info and help. Right now the tank is being treated with furanol, the sick fish is in a plastic box inside the aquarium in order to keep him out from the currents and closer to the surface. He seems a bit better but still very bad. The other fish whom i concered about is bloated and have pune sacles, behaving and eating normally. Any suggestion? other medications and treatments that i should try? anything to help understand further the cause of this? Ty for your help
     
  17. JesseMoreira06

    JesseMoreira06 Well Known Member Member

    if your goldfish appears to be bloated and with pine cone. Kanaplex and Metroplex together are the two best medications for that.