55 Gallon Tank Help Please! 6 yr old oscar ich & fungus

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6 yr old oscar with ich & fungus

We inherited a 6 yr oscar about three weeks ago. He has since then developed ich we we are treating him for with Mardel and now we are giving him Maracyn plus for the fungus. He just lays at the bottom of the tank on his side sometimes and I'm getting pretty desperate for another solution. Does anyone have any suggestions please? It has been 5 days for the ich teatment and three for fungus.
 
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Welcome to FishLore!!

Not much of a post to go on there.

How is it your Oscar is 6 years old, but the tank is only 3 1/2 weeks old?

When fish get sick, the forst thing to check are the water conditions.
What are the readings for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?

Can you post a picture?

Edit: Your two threads have been merged.
Thanks for clarifying some questions.
 
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6 yr old oscar has ich & fungus

Sister in law had the Oscar for six years and decided to get rid of him when she remodeled her house. Unfortunately he went through two moves and some abuse from other fish before we found out and asked if we could have him. There was no time to give the tanks water any cycling because he came with the empty tank and was transfered in a a plastic tote. We did the best we could to hurry up and set everything up for him and get him in the water. He seemed fine until the second week when we noticed the ich. After we started treating for ich is when we noticed the fungus(white/gray matter on his body). We then started treating him for that also. The pictures don't really show everything that well. Sorry it took so long to reply, I'm new @ this.
 

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Poor little (big) guy. He's a beauty.

No problem about the delay in your reply.
Rather than starting a new thread, just stick to this one for your oscar.
That way member can help better.

Have you checked the water? When was the last time you changed the water?
I suspect, since you didn't have time to cycle the tank ammonia might be an issue.
 
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Lucy said:
Welcome to FishLore!!

Not much of a post to go on there.

How is it your Oscar is 6 years old, but the tank is only 3 1/2 weeks old?

When fish get sick, the forst thing to check are the water conditions.
What are the readings for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?

Can you post a picture?

Edit: Your two threads have been merged.
Thanks for clarifying some questions.
Sister in law had the Oscar for six years and decided to get rid of him when she remodeled her house. Unfortunately he went through two moves and some abuse from other fish before we found out and asked if we could have him. There was no time to give the tanks water any cycling because he came with the empty tank and was transfered in a a plastic tote. We did the best we could to hurry up and set everything up for him and get him in the water. He seemed fine until the second week when we noticed the ich. After we started treating for ich is when we noticed the fungus(white/gray matter on his body). We then started treating him for that also. The pictures don't really show everything that well. Sorry it took so long to reply, I'm new @ this.
 
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I don't know if the pics came through or not, Please reply, thanks.
 
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I don't know if the pics came through or not, Please reply, thanks.
They came through fine.
Don't worry, you'll get the hang of posting in the forum.
To help navigate back to your thread, click My Threads or My Posts on the blue bar at the top.

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Lol....I was going to post in this thread and got confused when the post didnt post and I was redirected to idk where. Anywho...o_O Are you treating the Oscar with both medications at the same time? Jetajockey suggest great infomation. I would get one of the ammonia detoxers and do a water change. I suspect that with the huge amount of stress thrown on top of him is the blam for his sickness one after another. When a fish is stressed their immune system will begin to weaken and they'll get sick.
 
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I agree with jetajocky. You defiantly need to do large water changes with water treated with amquel+ or some other dechlorinater. the water conditions are the likely culprit, and an apI mater freshwater it is much more accurate then test strips.
 
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welcome to fishlore!!
Your oscar is beautiful and I'm sorry hes not feeling well

I would find some prime or amquel+ and start doing daily 50% water changes with one of those....they will keep him safe from the poison of ammonia/nitrites until the tank cycles....as well, id stop using the meds and just turn up his temp to 84-85f and add extra air stones for more oxygen..keep the temps consistent for 2 weeks ...even the water going back in the tank, needs to be the 84-85f......hes not bad enough for meds and I think the moving, uncycled tank are bothering him more than the illness's...get some new carbon/filter floss to get the meds out of his water....he needs that ammonia/nitrites to be detoxed for him which is what the amquel+ or prime will do...but you have to stick with daily water changes for a few weeks......do 2 gravel vacs a week for 2 weeks to get the ich spores out ....

good luck with him!!!!!!
 
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Oscar trouble

We are starting a water change right now. How much should we change and should we redistribute the amout of medicine equal to the water part that we take out?
 
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I would just go with what Shawnie said. Raise the tank tempature, and keep the water clean don't readd medications as of now. See how he does with that. If the fungus is still present then you can treat for that but not for the ICH the high tempatures will take care of that along with gravel vacuming. And do not combine medications, they could react in a violent way and kill the Oscar.
 
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like shawnie previously stated, 50% water change, make sure you get the water temp of the new water equal to what's in the tank, skip the meds, and don't forget to use a water conditioner, prime or amquel+ is best

I personally would do a 50% water change every day till the ammonia/nitrite levels drop to 0, its a lot of work but it's one of the best things to do.
 
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Thanks so much for all of your advice! We did the water change and I vacumed the gravel. We'll hold off on more meds and just monitor him for a while. Thanks again!
 
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Your Welcome, and welcome to the Site!
 
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oscarluvr74 said:
Thanks so much for all of your advice! We did the water change and I vacumed the gravel. We'll hold off on more meds and just monitor him for a while. Thanks again!
getting either the prime or amquel+ is a must to help him with the tank cycling....as well as it will make him feel much better....also, soaking all his food in some fresh garlic juice, will entice his eating and help his immune system ....good luck with him he really is a nice looking fish!
 
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Oscar not doing well!

I don't know if he's going to make it. He's covered in a whie/grey film and is at the bottom of the tank. Any last minute recomendations? Thanks again, Oscarluvr1974
 

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can you go get some prime or amquel+ right now? and do a 50% water change.....
 
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I can't unfortunately. What is amquel+? We did a 25% water change about 30 minutes ago.
 
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amquel+ or prime will keep the ammonia/nitrites so they aren't toxic...did you add some water conditioner? id do another 25% in a couple hours....do you have a heater for the tank? it should be about 76-78 with the same temps going in when you do a water change..I hope he perks up! poor thing
 
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The water temp is @ 75 right now. We tried to keep the water the same temp when we added to the tank. Thanks again!
 
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Shawnie said:
welcome to fishlore!!
Your oscar is beautiful and I'm sorry hes not feeling well

I would find some prime or amquel+ and start doing daily 50% water changes with one of those....they will keep him safe from the poison of ammonia/nitrites until the tank cycles....as well, id stop using the meds and just turn up his temp to 84-85f and add extra air stones for more oxygen..keep the temps consistent for 2 weeks ...even the water going back in the tank, needs to be the 84-85f......hes not bad enough for meds and I think the moving, uncycled tank are bothering him more than the illness's...get some new carbon/filter floss to get the meds out of his water....he needs that ammonia/nitrites to be detoxed for him which is what the amquel+ or prime will do...but you have to stick with daily water changes for a few weeks......do 2 gravel vacs a week for 2 weeks to get the ich spores out ....

good luck with him!!!!!!
Welcome to Fishlore

Excellent advice there from Shawnie. I hope it works out well for you & your Oscar.
 
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The water temp is @ 75 right now. We tried to keep the water the same temp when we added to the tank. Thanks again!
he needs it warmer...especially if you think its ich .....to kill/speed up the ich cycle, it has to be at least 84-85.I'm pulling for you both!!
 
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Raise From Near Death/oscar

This oscar has been through so much in the past month and is 6 years old I'm afraid to do anything drastic to save him but at the same time I know if I don't do something FAST I will lose him. I can't get to any special additives to add to the tank tonight and I don't get out of work until untill 4:00p.m. tommorow. Any suggestions are welcome. thanks Again, Oscarluvr74
 

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Merged threads.
Please stick to this thread about your Oscar.

I know you're very worried about him. We are too.

The members that have posted have a great deal of expereince and are some of the best on the forum.
Starting a new thread won't get the problem any more attention.
It's easier for you and the other members to keep track of all the suggestions if they're kept in one place.

I'm not sure what anyone else can suggest besides water changes since you can't get out to the store to get a test kit or a conditioner that would detox any ammonia or nitrites.
 
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I understand, just very worried and desperate I know I'm running out of time and very soon.
 
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We really do understand how much your Oscar means to you.

If anyone can suggest anything else, they'll post in this thread.
 
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definitely consider doing another water change, and vacuum out any leftover food or waste. If you haven't changed the water in over a week in a newly setup tank with that big guy in there the ammonia levels are probably fairly high. Hang in there!
 
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Thank you, I wish you could see a picture of him right now and how his color has changed over the past few hours just on this link. Do you know of a way That I can do this?
 
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To post additional pictures you mean? Just click the 'Go Advanced' button. It gives you more options for editing, and adding thumbnail pictures. And it'll be added to this thread, when you hit 'submit reply'
 
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oscarluvr74 said:
Thank you, I wish you could see a picture of him right now and how his color has changed over the past few hours just on this link.
For the better, I hope.
 
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Shawnie, We are going to do another 25% water drain right now @ 10:40 p.m. Please let me know if we should do another one during the night so I can set my alarm clock. I have to be up @ 5;30 a.m. for work.Thanks.
 
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Shawnie, We are going to do another 25% water drain right now @ 10:40 p.m. Please let me know if we should do another one during the night so I can set my alarm clock. I have to be up @ 5;30 a.m. for work.Thanks.
Shawnie isn't on. Did the water change seem to help him?
It wouldn't hurt to do another change tonight,
 
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O.k. we're on it, we'll let you know how it goes, Thanks again Lucy, t.b.c.......
 
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Definitely let us know Best of luck, we're pulling for you!
 
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