Help Me...what Could Have Done This?!?!

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I wish I had taken a photo. One of my goldfish was acting unwell for several days. He began showing signs of dropsy so I netted him out and noticed two areas of his body that released bloody fluid when gently squeezed. I opted to put him out of his misery, then did my usual fishy autopsy, and the results sickened me. I was too upset to think to save it to show anyone. Most of his flesh was like mush, and I had a very hard time finding any organs. The destroyed meat had white lumps all over inside it. I assume it was a parasite that burrowed in and laid eggs, but what kind and how do I get rid of it before it kills any more of my fish?!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!
 

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Eienna said:
I wish I had taken a photo. One of my goldfish was acting unwell for several days. He began showing signs of dropsy so I netted him out and noticed two areas of his body that released bloody fluid when gently squeezed. I opted to put him out of his misery, then did my usual fishy autopsy, and the results sickened me. I was too upset to think to save it to show anyone. Most of his flesh was like mush, and I had a very hard time finding any organs. The destroyed meat had white lumps all over inside it. I assume it was a parasite that burrowed in and laid eggs, but what kind and how do I get rid of it before it kills any more of my fish?!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!
Yikes . Do you have a public aquarium or university with a veterinary program nearby? They might be able to pinpoint the exact agent. Take photos for sure. If there is a chance professional eyes can take a look, save the remains by refrigeration.

In the meantime, a course of General Cure or other wormer may be in order. At least as a first line of defense.
 
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I wish I had saved the body and taken pictures!! I was so upset I didn't think of it until too late T_T the body's been flushed.
I've already wormed these fish with Prazipro and Levamisole before, but I may try it again...I'm thinking Coppersafe is probably my best bet at this point. Pretty sure it's not bacterial or fungal.
 

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I know this is traumatic, but if you can write up as detailed a report of your observations, it still may be of use to a fish veterinarian .

I would certainly try emailing my local aquarium for guidance.
 
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I don't know how to be any more detailed. Blood came out from under his raised scales when I pressed gently, and when I opened him up it looked like something had totally chewed up his insides. Almost like if you had put the meat in a blender briefly. The small white lumps didn't move but they were all over attached to the ruined meat.
 

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Eienna said:
I don't know how to be any more detailed. Blood came out from under his raised scales when I pressed gently, and when I opened him up it looked like something had totally chewed up his insides. Almost like if you had put the meat in a blender briefly. The small white lumps didn't move but they were all over attached to the ruined meat.
Ouch, so sorry for your loss! I have never done an autopsy but I can only imagine! Sounds like something Ive heard before on a video before but I couldn't remember the name even if I tried ): Try doing an in-depth google search if you havent already and look up unusual fish diseases and parasites on youtube maybe?
 
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KakeHugs said:
Ouch, so sorry for your loss! I have never done an autopsy but I can only imagine! Sounds like something Ive heard before on a video before but I couldn't remember the name even if I tried ): Try doing an in-depth google search if you havent already and look up unusual fish diseases and parasites on youtube maybe?
Worth a shot

I think I've found my culprit. Clostridium difficile. I'll have to be very careful - I don't want to be next. Treatment is metronidazole.

The whitish lumps looked just like those in the article
 
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It's peculiar that a human gut bacteria would appear as a fish infection, though. Maybe I should contact the CDC? It might be something they should know about, especially since this bacteria is a close relative of the one that causes botulism.

I wouldn't normally go for it, but I have so far failed to find a match in any fish database. I'm seriously regretting not saving the remains.
 
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OK SO
My metronidazole should be here today.
Gonna make some medicated fish food. None of the others are currently showing advanced symptoms (though one of them is acting a bit off...) so hopefully I can get them over this before losing any others. I'll keep this thread updated. If I lose any more I'm going to make a video of their condition.
 
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Okay...update....I have identified it, sadly, as mycobacteria. I hoped that it was aeromonas, but it did not respond to treatment with a kanaplex/furan-2 synergistic blend including salt; it only kept getting worse and slowly showing up in more fish. I had to destroy my entire setup, and start completely over. It's heartbreaking...but I've rebuilt before and I can do it again. I intend only to buy from higher-end places from now on, hopefully avoiding untreatable diseases like this last one, but it will take me a long time on my budget. I was able to buy one new fish so far, a fantastic black-and-white Oranda from Coast Gem. I'm really happy with it. I hope I can get him a friend in July.

I think I still have my darling Bubbles in the freezer. I will open the body later so I can show you guys what it looks like. Warning, it's horrible.

Just wanna show off my new boy here...I need to start a new tank thread...
and YES, this is only quarantine - NOT my main tank (which I'm in the process of getting ready for its first new fish,)
 

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oh no, im so sorry about your fish glad you were able to find out what it is though! i hope it doesnt happen again. that is a pretty fish.
 
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midna said:
oh no, im so sorry about your fish glad you were able to find out what it is though! i hope it doesnt happen again. that is a pretty fish.
Thank you. <3
 
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