Help me pick a betta

  1. junebug Fishlore Legend Member

    Mostly for fun, lol. I am hopefully going to be finishing my betta breeding setup in the next few months and would like to start spawning ASAP to work towards my goal of really nice true shortfin bettas.

    Shortfin halfmoons are symmetrical, unlike hmpks, and will have a level anal fin and a wider dorsal fin rather than a plakat fan dorsal and sloped anal. Adult breeders aren't easy to come by, and I probably won't be able to source any until I can make it to a show, and hope the guy who's finished his line in terms of breeding true has sent a pair or two to auction.

    My current plan is to mix plakat females with DTs and HMs of longfin varieties, select for the two traits that set shortfin halfmoons apart from hmpks, and work with the assorted F2 fish to perfect.

    I have a DT female, but she's in quarantine, possibly permanently. What I do have that I can work with is a really nice orange marble plakat girl, a gorgeous purple/blue grizzle HM boy, and a superdelta HM boy who is well branched enough to throw HMs, and probably was not flared often enough when he was young, which is why he never reached that 180 spread. I'm looking for DTs and possibly HMs, and plakats.

    Well I was browsing around ebay earlier, and came across a few people selling decent DT males. I might have to ask them if they have matching females. My top picks for males are linked below. I'm hoping to breed marbles and grizzles, but only really really good ones with good 50/50 color distribution. So I'm leaning towards marbles and pastels (grizzles are marble with pastel colors). Well here we go! Who do you like and why?


    DTs:

    Male #1 (I know he's neither marble nor pastel but he's got great red color, and I wouldn't mind getting a few good reds in my offspring)
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/D82-Thai-Im...d=100034&prg=10181&rk=1&rkt=8&sd=221503375150

    Male #2
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Betta-Male-...291179343647?pt=Live_Fish&hash=item43cba42f1f

    Male #3
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/live-betta-...351126171488?pt=Live_Fish&hash=item51c0c02f60

    Male #4
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/live-Tropic...281374217886?pt=Live_Fish&hash=item418335d69e

    Others:
    #5
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/live-Tropic...271536131167?pt=Live_Fish&hash=item3f38d08c5f

    #6
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/live-Tropic...281384436550?pt=Live_Fish&hash=item4183d1c346
     
  2. shayla1 Well Known Member Member

    I like # 3 for his ultra wide dorsal fin and relatively straight dorsal and anal fins. These were a couple of the traits you were looking for.

    I also like #4 for the same reasons, wide dorsal and mostly straight anal fin, but it doesn't seem as straight as #3 so that's why he was a second choice.

    The Others .. I like 5 for his straight line on the anal fin, but his dorsal isn't as large or wide and 6 is cute.. he has the shorter fins, but again his dorsal is pretty small, and narrow.

    Those are my entirely unprofessional choices. #3 or 4.. but I prefer 3
     

  3. kevymd Well Known Member Member

    I like number two because it made me go "oOoOoOoOH!!"

    Other than that, I"m at a loss. They're all beautiful and when it comes to bettas I'm no good at picking out breeding characteristics.
     
  4. celizabethh3 Member Member

    Number 3 is so beautiful. :) I love his colours.


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  5. Boeing250 Well Known Member Member

    Number 1
     
  6. lollipopkiller Well Known Member Member

    love 3
     
  7. echi1 Well Known Member Member

    #1 and #3 are beautiful, but #3 is orange! So go with #3, hurry thats one pretty betta!
     
  8. Rivieraneo Moderator Moderator Member

    June, my pick would be 1 and 3, great looking guys!
     
  9. junebug Fishlore Legend Member

    The last fish linked, the little white one with dots, is actually a genetic plakat. Obviously someone's been outcrossing that line with longfins, so he's a terrible plakat, but might make a good cross to work towards shortfins. My main concern with him is that his color isn't showable. He fits no color standard and is not likely to throw fish that will fit a color standard. The good news is he's a marble, and marbles are unpredictable color wise, so it might end up that he throws perfect 50/50 marbles if crossed with a bicolor or marble female.

    One thing I'm trying to be super careful of when selecting DT males is the topline and body style. DTs are famous for bumpy toplines and super thick, short bodies. Now all of these males are short-bodied, but some are worse than others, and #2 for instance isn't as thick. #3 has a VERY sloped topline, though at least it's fairly smooth.

    #2 actually has the best form of all of them, with the exception of the notch in his anal fin. kdsfjghkgh so many choices :p