Help in setting a FO tank.

locoyo386

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Hi,

Can anyone give me some guidance on how to set up a FO saltwater tank?
You know the basic step 1, step 2.. things.

I would appreciate any help, thanks.
 

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55G FO tank.OK. Any thoughts on how you would decorate the tank (Rocks??)

W/O LR, that means you tank has to have other means of Bio Filtration.
Best bet will be W/D Filter or DIY Sump w/ filter media. Do remember that any kind of filters you hook up requires constant maintenance to make sure things don't build up to produce nitrate.

Can be done and have done with Undergravel filters+Canisters w/ Crushed Corals and most importantly a Protein Skimmer. This was when other options were NOT available/too expensive (early 80's/mid 80's). Simple set up w/ Hardier fish such as grouper, Trigger, Eels can be kept w/ routine maintenance, was able to keep running. I am not saying to use UGF and Canisters. Like I said, W/D or DIY sump is better option than UGF method.

But My question to you is Why not Live Rock? You don't have to fill the tank w/ LR. Investing in LR will be the best decision you can make on S/W. Although can use other rocks such as Lava Rock which will also be bio active given time but does require regular cleaning since will trap detritus in bigger pores. If willing to spend money on Dead Rocks, please consider spending that money on LR ,whatever amt it may be. Better than nothing.

I can go on but reconsider the benefitS of LR
 
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Hi,

cerianthus said:
55G FO tank.OK. Any thoughts on how you would decorate the tank (Rocks??) I was thinking fake corals or dead corals

W/O LR, that means you tank has to have other means of Bio Filtration. Correct thus FO no LR.
Best bet will be W/D Filter or DIY Sump w/ filter media. Would either one of these be a must in a FO tank? Do remember that any kind of filters you hook up requires constant maintenance to make sure things don't build up to produce nitrate.

Can be done and have done with Undergravel filters+Canisters w/ Crushed Corals and most importantly a Protein Skimmer. This was when other options were NOT available/too expensive (early 80's/mid 80's). Simple set up w/ Hardier fish such as grouper, Trigger, Eels can be kept w/ routine maintenance, was able to keep running. I am not saying to use UGF and Canisters. Like I said, W/D or DIY sump is better option than UGF method.

But My question to you is Why not Live Rock? I wanted to do FO, mainly for asthetics. I do not like the look of the rock. You don't have to fill the tank w/ LR. Investing in LR will be the best decision you can make on S/W. Although can use other rocks such as Lava Rock which will also be bio active given time but does require regular cleaning since will trap detritus in bigger pores. If willing to spend money on Dead Rocks, please consider spending that money on LR ,whatever amt it may be. Better than nothing. By having live rock I understand that will help with filtration, there are no other means of filtration w/o using LR (For example penguin bio filters). Other wise I would be setting up a FOWLR tank and not a FO tank?

I can go on but reconsider the benefitS of LR
 

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Ok, First welcome to Flshlore,
Mike has given you the link on how, and what is required to set up a marine tank.
FO or FOWLR, One has LR, that's the only difference.
As you know, the LR is one of the best bio filters and as this will be a FO system your filtration must be the best.
I would really look at using a sump. It will hide the equipment and make it a lot easier to clean the filter media. You will need to clean the floss 3 times a week.
If you can't or don't want a sump, then I would look at 2 canister filters, each one rated for a 55 gallon tank.
You will need a top end protein skimmer, rated for a 100 gallon tank.
The reason for the increased filters is that you are not using LR.
You will really need to research the fish you want to keep, as you will have some issues keeping some that like to hide and feed from the LR.
Pete
 

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Another option you might consider, for bio filtration purposes, would be to go the sump route that has been mentioned, but put some live rock in the sump. This would give you the benefits of LR bio filtration, while keeping the rock out of the display tank if you simply don't like the look of it.

Ultimately, the decision is, of course, yours. Don't feel like you're being ganged up on over the issue. It is just that LR really does make a huge difference in a sw tank, so we want to be sure you have thoroughly considered the issue. If, in the end, you elect to do without live rock, then the other options that have been presented can help you out. Just be aware, as was pointed out above, that you will need to be on top of your game in terms of cleaning/maintenance to keep from producing an overabundance of nitrates with a mechanical filter system.

Good luck, whatever you decide!
 

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When I first setup my tank it had like 5lbs of live rock. What I used for bio-filtration was a EheI'm 2227 canister wet/day filter. This was all I needed for 65 gallon tank without a sump. I think these are perfect for FO tanks. Half of bio media has to be replaced every 6 months. Hope this helps.
 
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Thank you all, I will look into it more before I decide on the tank setup.
 
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One more question;
I have heard that the test kits have experation dates. I currently have the API test kit, but I can't seem to find the esperation date. Does any one know where it is located on this test kit?
 

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