Has anyone tried papyrus?

Jnx
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Just picked up some papyrus for the "larger" indoor pond.
Does anyone have any experience?
 
Coradee
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Bumping this up for you
 
Bhatti
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just searched about it. Very interesting plant. never tried but willing to if found some. I have planted umbrella palm though in my small pond.
any photos?
 
Jnx
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just searched about it. Very interesting plant. never tried but willing to if found some. I have planted umbrella palm though in my small pond.
any photos?
I just happened to find it at a local florist's. I'm re-potting it and re-waterscaping the pond, too. I'll take some photos.
Umbrella palm is a.k.a schefflera, right? I didn't know that could handle been a water plant, neat!
 
Bhatti
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nope it's not schefflera..you can google it or if you like you can visit my pond following link in my signature. It is planted as bog plant. Roots(in soil) are always wet and its been in pond for a year now.

yeah I would love to see your pond
 
Jnx
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nope it's not schefflera..you can google it or if you like you can visit my pond following link in my signature. It is planted as bog plant. Roots(in soil) are always wet and its been in pond for a year now.

yeah I would love to see your pond
I did end up googling it- It looks like it's also known as umbrella papyrus, and appears to be the same plant I just bought.
After a distracted weekend I'm back at waterscaping. I just repotted the papyrus in my "net system", and am currently playing Tetris with plants. The goldfish seem interested, but not stressed.
Here's an in-progress pic:
 
Jnx
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Whoops- should have rotated...
 
Bhatti
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wow..you are really doing a good job .
would you explain what is net system? I am planning on planting heavily. So far I have made planter out of pvc pipe but its not very pretty.
 
Jnx
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  • #9
wow..you are really doing a good job .
would you explain what is net system? I am planning on planting heavily. So far I have made planter out of pvc pipe but its not very pretty.
Thank you!
The "net-system" is just what I call how I place the plants in the ponds. I buy super fine, fabric-like black plastic netting, cut it to size, and then fold in and lace up the sides with plastic coated floral wire. It makes a malleable cup to repot the bog plants in. I fill the bottom with rocks for ballast, then transplant the plant. Then I fashion and attach wire handles, and loop them over the side of the pre-fab pond where I want the plant to stay. I add rocks around the base of the plant, then cover the top with moss and decorative pebbles. Doing this keeps the plants where I want them, and keeps their roots away from the snails and goldfish.
Pvc pipe sounds smart. Long lasting and durable. Maybe cover it with rocks?
 
Bhatti
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very ingenious

its 6 or 8 inch pipe and cannot place rocks as one side is inside-wards pond. But can silicon small pebels..thanks for idea
 
Jnx
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
very ingenious

its 6 or 8 inch pipe and cannot place rocks as one side is inside-wards pond. But can silicon small pebels..thanks for idea
That's quite a pipe! We're working on a totally different scale.
You could even try making a covering for it, sort of a custom camoflauge netting.
 
Bhatti
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you are right. I am actually trying to plant bigger plants and also am short of space around pond. Mosses/lychins are great for such places but climate here is not suitable for them. Though I am experimenting with them.

Now I have looked somewhere imperial taro in pond and am very excited about it. Want to build something to pot it in pond.
 
DoubleDutch
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Funny thing I was thinking about planting some in my open Venezuelan-tank. Nice to have plants that rise above the surface!
 
Bhatti
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yeah..It looks more full and natural when plants are on every level imo.
I am thinking of creating a vivarium/riparium(correct?) for some time, but need to get separate "aquarium" for it with less height maybe, and space too.
 
Jnx
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Our long term plans include more indoor ponds and an outdoor goldfish pond or two. I really want some water lilies.
 
Bhatti
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yeah I like water lillies too but afraid that koi/goldfish will destroy it.
I have planted one little tiger lotus in aquarium though.
 
Jnx
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I had a couple of water lilies in my larger indoor pond. The snails destroyed one and had a good try at the other. The survivor refuses to thrive.
You have pond experience: could you recommend a good water plant that might work for the lower light levels of my indoor pond? I tried water hyacinth, but I think the lack of full sun killed them.
 
Bhatti
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you can try hornwort but you must know that it shed its needles/leaves(sometimes few, sometimes alot). But if you haven't tried it, I would suggest to give it a try for once. let it float and it would grow quickly. don't need high light. I think it will benefit from high flow but not required. if you see some part is turning yellowish, just trim it and discard(in my experience older parts turn lite-yellowish and then sheds needles quickly). Again it may shed needles so be prepare if you get it. for me its not big deal. I have hornwort in almost my every pond/aquarium. Its fast grower and very good oxygenater. also provides hide for fry or shy fish.

I just realized how much I have wrote about it

you can also try pathos(money plant), if you haven't yet. Let its half stem lenght in water and other along edges. Looks good.

you can also try duckweed. yeah it has its bad points also, sticks to your hands alot.
 
Jnx
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Hornwort sounds perfect, shedding doesn't worry me. I'll hunt some down, thanks! (No prob writing a bit about it, I like information )
I have pathos/pothos/devil's ivy/whatever it's called running all through the studio already. It's running in and out of my betta ponds. I'm pretty set on bog or partially submerged plants- I've got irises and sarracenia, too. It's floating and submerged plants that are giving me a little trouble. Either the fish, snails, or low light gets them.
I'm planning on adding duckweed, the next time I'm near a pond with it. I refuse to purchase it.
 
Aquaphobia
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Always wanted to grow papyrus but never had a pond of my own. I see that there's a dwarf variety available now that I'm really excited about but I think it's still too big for any of my tanks. If you want to propagate it you Ben the stalk over and let the top touch the water. It will grow from there
 
Bhatti
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Jnx, why to buy something if you can get it for free I myself got lots of plants from rivers/canals/ponds
 
Aquaphobia
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Yeah but a lot of the plants you have growing wild near you BhattI are the ones that are exotic tropicals here! Besides, tropical plants are better for indoor growing than temperate ones just because of their ability to handle year-round warmth
 
Bhatti
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Yeah but a lot of the plants you have growing wild near you @ are the ones that are exotic tropicals here! Besides, tropical plants are better for indoor growing than temperate ones just because of their ability to handle year-round warmth

no doubt. but we get colder months here too but ofcourse for most of you that might be pleasent climate (0C atmost)

BTW water hyacinth didn't survived in my outdoor pond last year
 
Aquaphobia
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That's too bad about the water hyacinth. It has such stunning flowers! Any chance you could bring a plant or two indoors this winter and float it in a bowl as a table centerpiece until the spring? That would look cool
 
Bhatti
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last winter I tried to save it by floating in aquarium, but surface above water was too humid, I think, so it melted anyway. this season I haven't got any
 
Aquaphobia
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Too bad. It has such a beautiful flower
 
Bhatti
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yes, indeed. Last year when I brought it from river, it bloomed within first days and for sure I was surprised how amazing bloom it had. but sad enough it lasts only a day at its full
 
Jnx
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I've tried three times now with the water hyacinth, and it just gives up. I think it really hates it indoors. It's totally a shame, I was so looking forward to those flowers!
 
Aquaphobia
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It's a heavy feeder and I think it needs high light as well. Difficult to provide indoors without an expensive setup.
 
Bhatti
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yes it needs high light. here in rivers, it stays happy even when sun is shinning for about 16 hours a day and temp is around 40C !
 
Aquaphobia
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In other words, it's my opposite in all ways... other than the stunningly beautiful part
 
Jnx
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I think it totally has the food, but yeah, not near that much light in my little ponds!
Sigh. At least the snails like the roots as it dies...
 
Bhatti
  • #33
haha..well we cann't tell if its true unless we see you
 
Jnx
  • Thread Starter
  • #34
It seems to like its new home- new shoots!
 

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