5 Gallon Tank Halfmoon Plakat Betta

kimoore
  • #1
So, I'm thinking about getting a HFPK Betta, what should I look for quality wise in a male and female? What colors are rarer than others? What should I avoid? Thanks in advance!
 

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Cichlidnut
  • #2
I love HMPK's! are you looking to order online or buy in a store? I can share pictures of my HMPK if you'd like
 

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e_watson09
  • #3
I personally look for the colors I like best haha! Just depends on what I think is prettiest.
 
Akari_32
  • #4
I love HMPK's! are you looking to order online or buy in a store? I can share pictures of my HMPK if you'd like

Show off much?


I just look for fish that catch my eye. Its how I ended up with all my bettas LOL
 
kimoore
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
I love HMPK's! are you looking to order online or buy in a store? I can share pictures of my HMPK if you'd like

Pictures would be great! and any advice would be welcome too.
 
soltarianknight
  • #6
It depends, are you looking to breed or just for a pet?

Watch for spinal deformities or odd kinks in the spine. Look at the scales, are they all in uniform rows or crooked/jagged near the tail base. Mouth, look for a good non crooked mouth that isn't pinched. There are many factors, if your looking online, then I will do a more indepth description. If your buying from a store then get what appeals to you, imo, there is no high quality store betta. If your breeding, online is the way to go.

I would also say that as far as colors go, there is no rarity. You may find common colors, but really there arnt any rare.

Heres what one common color is

Teal dragon with red wash. If your looking to breed and you don't want red offspring, avoid the red wash.

Theres also Solid whites/platinum. Gold, black, orchid, various types of copper. Red, black, normal coppers. Mustardgas is common now aswell, though I will say this now, there is no mustardgas on the market. Just fish that look like them. MG was a line name, not a color morph . Unfortunetly, that line is basicly gone from the betta world, I have seen 1 though, a male but he was too old to breed. I have a steel Dragon "Mustardgas" aswell.

Basically, what's considered mustard gas is any betta with a blue body, orange/yellow fins, and black or blue edging. The true MG line was amazing, They had purple iridescence, yellow fins with orange and red swirls/streaks and black edging with more purple.

In the lighting he looks like this
 

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kimoore
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
It depends, are you looking to breed or just for a pet?

Watch for spinal deformities or odd kinks in the spine. Look at the scales, are they all in uniform rows or crooked/jagged near the tail base. Mouth, look for a good non crooked mouth that isn't pinched. There are many factors, if your looking online, then I will do a more indepth description. If your buying from a store then get what appeals to you, imo, there is no high quality store betta. If your breeding, online is the way to go.

I would also say that as far as colors go, there is no rarity. You may find common colors, but really there arnt any rare.

Heres what one common color is

Teal dragon with red wash. If your looking to breed and you don't want red offspring, avoid the red wash.

Theres also Solid whites/platinum. Gold, black, orchid, various types of copper. Red, black, normal coppers. Mustardgas is common now aswell, though I will say this now, there is no mustardgas on the market. Just fish that look like them. MG was a line name, not a color morph . Unfortunetly, that line is basicly gone from the betta world, I have seen 1 though, a male but he was too old to breed. I have a steel Dragon "Mustardgas" aswell.

Basically, what's considered mustard gas is any betta with a blue body, orange/yellow fins, and black or blue edging. The true MG line was amazing, They had purple iridescence, yellow fins with orange and red swirls/streaks and black edging with more purple.

Thanks for the information! I'm not sure if I want to breed or not. I would like to have the option open. Yes, I was looking online at a place called bettaakapes.com Have you ever heard of them?
 
Cichlidnut
  • #8
Here are a couple threads with my HMPK. He's pretty much awesome
 
soltarianknight
  • #9
Lovely HMPK CN.
 
jdhef
  • #10
Yes, I was looking online at a place called bettaakapes.com Have you ever heard of them?

I was on the Bettaakapes.com website a lot recently drooling over the Betta's there. I was interested in possibly ordering one from him.

When ordering from Thailand you need to use a transhipper. I contacted one of the transhippers he listed on his website to ask about what form of payment he accepted and how much it would cost.

The transhipper got back to me and told me he accepted Paypal, but didn't say how much for his service. So I wrote back asking what it would cost, and I never heard back from him.

In the meantime I found a beautiful Halfmoon at Petco of all places.

But when I checked out Bettaakapes feedback on AquaBid, it was very positive, so I believe he is a reputable seller.
 

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Cichlidnut
  • #11
Chard56 is a good seller, breeds his own fish too. I've been talking to him about ordering one of his HMPK's he's been great! Also uses the forum a bit.
 
soltarianknight
  • #12
Chard56 is a good seller, breeds his own fish too. I've been talking to him about ordering one of his HMPK's he's been great! Also uses the forum a bit.

He sounds like a nice guy, but if he is a serious breeder he needs to do some work.

This is not an acceptable HMPK for breeding. You can find this color easy on a much higher quality fish. I understand that yes, you get these fish no matter how experienced, doesn't mean you should sell them. Imo, its bad representation. His other HMPK are intresting though, a lot seem to have minor CT influence and some spaded tails as well as elongated analfins. Still, ive seen much worse and his fish have BEAUTIFUL body shape. That's all I actually care about imo. I could fix fins, but body shape is a trick.
If your looking into breeding do some HEAVY research.

So my only complaint here is that he needs some serious fin work. Its just a mess.
 
Cichlidnut
  • #13
Gosh your nit picky aren't you SK
 
soltarianknight
  • #14
Betta police, I do realize that sometimes I'm a complete COMPLETE jerk. However, in this particular case, no breeder would recommend those fish. I'm just being honest, its plain to see. That is, unless your willing to work 3-6 generations to achieve result.
Even Bettaakapes.com their HMPK just have substandard finnage. I mean seriously, they need to start taking it a little more serious. "its all about the color" no. I would rather have a red/blue multI colored VT with perfect form then a Salamander HMPK with crooked scales or horribly uneven fins. So my tip to you, if your looking for potential breeding look for solid even fins, no wacky shapes. for a HM, you want to be able to fold the fin in half and see it match up. same for anal and dorsals. No HUGE long anal or dorsal on a HMPK, that means its 1st or second generation HMPK/PK bred to a long fin and the fins are not proportional.
 

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Cichlidnut
  • #15
Can you find me a perfect HMPK in the US that's under $20?
 
kimoore
  • Thread Starter
  • #16
well, I think have found one that I am in LOVE with! After taking SK's advice, his fins could use a little work, but he is still beautiful! Thanks for all the advice!
 
Shawnie
  • #17
ive seen allot of HMPK around the LFS lately....they are out there...and they are super fun fish! Martinismommy is a member who breeds ALL kinds of bettas and her fish are stunning!

Can you find me a perfect HMPK in the US that's under $20?

ya my zouk LOL ...he was a beauty and a rescue....
 
soltarianknight
  • #18
...flat edge on his tail . Jkjk, love him. Hes beautiful. If you want a quality betta, pay more then $20. You want cheap genetics, by all means. If and when I get my next betta I will be doing so via aquabid. I exspect to pay atleast 25-40 for it.

So kim, link us?
 

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kimoore
  • Thread Starter
  • #19
...flat edge on his tail . Jkjk, love him. Hes beautiful. If you want a quality betta, pay more then $20. You want cheap genetics, by all means. If and when I get my next betta I will be doing so via aquabid. I exspect to pay atleast 25-40 for it.

So kim, link us?

Its Kat, lol! what do you mean, "link us?"
 
Cichlidnut
  • #20
I think he got kI'm from the first 3 letters of your user name ;D
 
kimoore
  • Thread Starter
  • #21
ya, it happens a lot on here! I tried katmoore, but it said it was taken.
 
soltarianknight
  • #22
Nicknames come from usernames.. While I preffer Sol, everyone insists on SK XD. Thus for you I got Kim. BUT kat will do
 

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Cichlidnut
  • #23
Nicknames come from usernames.. While I preffer Sol, everyone insists on SK XD. Thus for you I got Kim. BUT kat will do

you're SK, deal with it ;D
 
jdhef
  • #24
I think link us means put up a link to the fish (assuming it's an online purchase) so we can all drool.
 
kimoore
  • Thread Starter
  • #25
I think link us means put up a link to the fish (assuming it's an online purchase) so we can all drool.

here ya go!
 
jdhef
  • #26
Very Nice!
 

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kimoore
  • Thread Starter
  • #27
he's not perfect, but WOW is he pretty!
 
Cichlidnut
  • #28
Well, did you order him?
 
kimoore
  • Thread Starter
  • #29
I can't get a hold of the transhipper. So no and I probably wont. I have been told that this happens a lot. Bummer, I was really excited.
 
witchykitty
  • #30
kimoore, hi, new to the forum!

Which transhipper were you trying to reach? Jennifer Viveiros, a transshipper in Atlanta has prices listed on here site: . Jennifer is the only one that I've personally dealt with recently, but she's highly recommended. Very busy, though. Just tell the seller who you want to the betta sent to and you'll hear from the transhipper as soon as the bettas are unpacked and sorted. Sadly, shipping within the US very expensive, not just because the transhipper incurs costs, but because shipping via USPS is expensive (even for a small box with one betta). The cost + the wonderful USPS customer service is why USPS ain't doin' so well.

If you want to get a quality betta from Thailand at a minimum shipping cost, try the Betta Shop in St. Paul, MN: . They get regular shipments and post them on YouTube. I've ordered from them before and they are highly recommended, too. Their stock is healthy and the customer service is awesome.

If you still want to order directly from overseas, I personally recommend taebetta, banleangbettas, or patsayawan for HMPKs. I ordered a really nice Giant HMPK from bettaakapes for only $30 (which was a fantastic price), but his HMPKs and HMs just don't do it for me. I haven't had personal experience from these sellers, but I really do like their HMPK stock: Profish_farm, Mr_betta, and Ninebettas.

Good luck in your search!
 
kimoore
  • Thread Starter
  • #31
thank you! I think I will get a betta at a later date. But will keep these places in mind. I rather like the idea of ordering in-state and not dealing with a middle-man.
 
Cichlidnut
  • #32
It is possible to find bettas on aquabid that are already in the country. Just look at the flag next to the post.
 

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