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I’ve had this particular guppy for awhile now, and she’s always slouched around a lot.
She has had 3 batches of fry, and I didn’t think much when she started gaining weight again, because a guppy can have 4 batches after one mating.

I started to get really concerned when I noticed clear poo, which is a sign of a parasite or bacterial infection I believe, but upon further research I found it can also happen before giving birth.

due to the covid 19 thing I don’t have any way to get the medicine I need to treat such an infection if she is sick, and Amazon is saying that my order will be delayed and by the time it gets here it could be too late.
Should I remove her from the guppy tank where she’s been living with 8 of her children, into a unfiltered holding tank: the closest thing I have to quarantine? All the fish she was with seem healthy at the moment but I just preformed a 50% water change to be careful.

is there any way I can help her without medicine? Any household alternatives I can try?

here’s some photos of her taken earlier today, she has been lounging on the guppy fry hideout.
I couldn’t get a picture of her from the front, but she’s very round. Honestly I think she may be pregnant, she has her white pregnancy dot by her fins on her stomach.
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Sick or pregnant?
 

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Oh! I forgot to add water parameters!
(Taken with an API liquid test kit)

ammonia: 0ppm
ph: 7.2
nitrate(NO2): 0ppm
nitrate (NO3): 40ppm

The NO3 level is higher than its normally at because of the large water change (my tap water contains nitrate), I’m working to bring that down, but it’s still within the safe range thankfully.
 

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I would be concerned about dropsy - in that last photo, it almost looks like she's just starting to pinecone. It's hard to tell with her scales being mostly translucent. Her gravid spot is not very large at all, which makes me think she is not wide because she's pregnant - she looks bloated to me.

Do you have any meds or remedies (including aquarium salt or epsom salt) at home already? If so, what do you have?

I would isolate her, in case she has anything contagious and to prevent her from being harassed.
 
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SM1199 said:
I would be concerned about dropsy - in that last photo, it almost looks like she's just starting to pinecone. It's hard to tell with her scales being mostly translucent. Her gravid spot is not very large at all, which makes me think she is not wide because she's pregnant - she looks bloated to me.

Do you have any meds or remedies (including aquarium salt or epsom salt) at home already? If so, what do you have?

I would isolate her, in case she has anything contagious and to prevent her from being harassed.
I was concerned about dropsy as well, I had my other adult female guppy pass away from it just over a two months ago.

I don’t have any aquarium salt at present, it’s all been used and I spaced on restocking. I might be able to find some epsom salt laying around somewhere.


I will definitely isolate her and hope for the best.
 

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I think that's the most you can do without meds. I would test her isolation tank and try to get nitrates below 20, best if below 10, because 40 is right on the brink of "maybe not as okay" and might not be helping her.

If she really begins to struggle and you feel like she's not going to improve, I can give you a couple suggestions about euthanasia.
 
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I moved her into isolation and added a plant. I also managed to get a picture from the front.
At this point I feel it definitely could be bloat or dropsy, but the slight pinconing I saw earlier today has disappeared and she seems more active, which is really confusing me.
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Hoping the best for her! That water change you did earlier might have slowed or stopped whatever's going on.
 
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She passed away overnight, and pineconed up a little. It must have been dropsy, but on closer inspection of her stomach I saw unborn fry in there was well (she’s pretty transparent so you can see their eyes). Rest In Peace, Lighting and all her babies. :(

I will be carefully watching the tank she was in for any other signs of illness in the other guppies and working to bring those nitrates down.
 

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