Guppy Breeding Success & Fails

FriendsAreFish
  • #1
I have had 4 pregnant guppies (that I know of) one birth without me knowing until I seen my angelfish eat one. One birth in a breeder box (I have 9-9 week old surviving fry that are currently in a separate 10 gallon tank, very happy active little things but growing extremely slow). One guppy aborted her fry shortly after going into the breeder box. And one unfortunately died while pregnant. I just put another pregnant one in the breeder box. I'm nervous because I don't want her to get stressed and do abort but I really want to save the fry! As I said, there's no chance of letting her have them in the tank due to the angel fish, and the fry in the 10 gallon are still too small for me to safely put her with them. Any tips? Is it normally a hit or miss?
 

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Mcasella
  • #2
Add in cover plants for the dry in the ten and moved her over, naja grass, anacharis, hornwort, or even java moss will work as cover because the female should not be able to catch them - breeder boxes stress them out which is why one of your females aborted her babies - I have loads of cover in my guppy tanks and have tons of surviving fry that grow fairly quickly.
 

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FriendsAreFish
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  • #3
Add in cover plants for the dry in the ten and moved her over, naja grass, anacharis, hornwort, or even java moss will work as cover because the female should not be able to catch them - breeder boxes stress them out which is why one of your females aborted her babies - I have loads of cover in my guppy tanks and have tons of surviving fry that grow fairly quickly.
If she has the fry in the 10 gallon, won't the current fry and her eat the new ones? There is a lot of hiding places already but I'm still afraid they'll be eaten. She is very pretty and I'm excited to see her fry survive!
 
Mcasella
  • #4
How big are the other fry? 9 weeks should be close to adult size of at least big enough to move back in with the adults? (I know there is an angel, mine will definitely eat smaller fish if they get the chance)
If there is cover many should survive but you want to get her back with your male after she finishes giving birth so the next group can look like them.
 
FriendsAreFish
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  • #5
The other fry are a lot smaller then they should be. I posted about them last week but everyone told me not to worry and to just continue feeding 3 times a day. I just tried introducing them to blood worms and only the 2 bigger one got them down and it was a long process. I'm going to put her in the 10 gallon and hope for the best. There's only one extremely small fry that I'm worried about her eating. But they are definitely all to small to join the 50 gallon with the adult males and angel.
 
Ohio Mark
  • #6
My main guppy tank has plenty of plants in it and the fry seem to know to dart for cover. I have used breeding boxes and prefer to start the fry in an adult-free 10 gallon tank, but still I'm amazed at the number of fry that survive and thrive in the main tank. As another person posted, breeding boxes really do stress the adult females. I've used them, but as a last resort. I do try and net the fry out to transfer to my "nursery tank" but there always seems to be a few that elude the net and grow large enough to no longer be viewed as lunch by the adults. I always have plenty of young guppies to give away or trade.
 

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Mcasella
  • #7
Just make sure you have surface cover an they should be able to stay alive (my guppies don't recognise the fry as food but the newborns still hide at the surface under the floating stem plants and giant sword leaves), how often do you do water changes, at about 4 weeks mine are at least a half inch and greeting me at the front of the tank with the adults. They have a good filtration system but don't get as frequent water changes but their tank is also a jungle and I have yet to lose one that I haven't moved out of the tank (I separate any males that show up besides my Moscow male I have in there for breeding).
 
FriendsAreFish
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  • #8
My main guppy tank has plenty of plants in it and the fry seem to know to dart for cover. I have used breeding boxes and prefer to start the fry in an adult-free 10 gallon tank, but still I'm amazed at the number of fry that survive and thrive in the main tank. As another person posted, breeding boxes really do stress the adult females. I've used them, but as a last resort. I do try and net the fry out to transfer to my "nursery tank" but there always seems to be a few that elude the net and grow large enough to no longer be viewed as lunch by the adults. I always have plenty of young guppies to give away or trade.
I placed her in the 10 gallon with the fry and she seems to be enjoying it so far, she hasn't bothered them and they started following her around. The temperature is slightly cooler in the small tank because the 50 gallon is warm for the angel, I did acclimate her and put a dose of stress coat in the tank so I hope she'll be okay! She probably has another week or 2 before she's ready but I didn't want to do it right before because I don't think they nor she would have survived with the stress. I do have to get better surface coverage though!
 
Ohio Mark
  • #9
I'm a big fan of live plants. A friend of mine, though, created instant cover by buying some plastic plants that were in a "carpet" pattern intended to put in the gravel to create an instant "carpet" of plants. He let those float upside down on the surface of the water and the fry hid in there. Good luck!
 
FriendsAreFish
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  • #10
Just make sure you have surface cover an they should be able to stay alive (my guppies don't recognise the fry as food but the newborns still hide at the surface under the floating stem plants and giant sword leaves), how often do you do water changes, at about 4 weeks mine are at least a half inch and greeting me at the front of the tank with the adults. They have a good filtration system but don't get as frequent water changes but their tank is also a jungle and I have yet to lose one that I haven't moved out of the tank (I separate any males that show up besides my Moscow male I have in there for breeding).
I haven't lost any of my fry in the 10 gallon! But I cannot put them into the 50 gallon due to my angel (he/she tries to eat my nails every time I'm working in the tank, not afraid of anything!) I do have three very small adult males in there that she doesn't bother but they are still almost double the size of the fry. I guess a few of them are are half inch but some definitely are not. And only one has the tiniest spot of color on its tail, all others are still practically clear! Which blows my mind because at that time there was only one male and he had a bright blue body with bright orange fins.

I'm a big fan of live plants. A friend of mine, though, created instant cover by buying some plastic plants that were in a "carpet" pattern intended to put in the gravel to create an instant "carpet" of plants. He let those float upside down on the surface of the water and the fry hid in there. Good luck!
Thanks! I'll be going to the store this weekend to see what I can find!
 
F8LFish
  • #11
I have had 4 pregnant guppies (that I know of) one birth without me knowing until I seen my angelfish eat one. One birth in a breeder box (I have 9-9 week old surviving fry that are currently in a separate 10 gallon tank, very happy active little things but growing extremely slow). One guppy aborted her fry shortly after going into the breeder box. And one unfortunately died while pregnant. I just put another pregnant one in the breeder box. I'm nervous because I don't want her to get stressed and do abort but I really want to save the fry! As I said, there's no chance of letting her have them in the tank due to the angel fish, and the fry in the 10 gallon are still too small for me to safely put her with them. Any tips? Is it normally a hit or miss?
why not use a divider in the fry tank with dense foilage, with pnly one female she may be too tired to eat them? if you do like I did pick up a cheap baby video monitor to watch the labour tank? mine I got for $10 at a yard sale wireless panasonic 2 cameras and pne monitor. it has night visionso I can see my girls all the time. just some food for thought.
 

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