Guppy Babies Reabsorbed?!

Somthing creative
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hI so I made a thread talking about my guppy being 40 something days pregnant and not giving birth yet but ready to pop. Since then I have moved her to a ten gallon with two dwarf gourami, three guppy fry, and a rubber lip pleco. They are all swimming around the tank and I did a water change yesterday.
She is still ready to pop. She isn’t eating right away but she is eating some and slowly (she is usually a very aggressive eater) and she just hangs out in the tank, not swimming around a lot.
The other fish don’t bother her as the gourami don’t go to the surface much(they are relatively new to the ten gallon I had to move them a week or so ago) and the fry don’t seem to bug her (they are big enough not to be eaten)
I put a blanket over the tank for extra warmth (the thermometer is one that keeps it at a set temp and you can’t adjust) and for extra darkness and to muffle and nosies that may stress her.
Is there any other thing that could potentially help her give birth (home remedy’s as I really have no extra money) and could she have absorbed her babies?!?. She is still fat and squared off.
What tips can you give me? She has given birth before but it was over night and I didn’t even know she was ready to drop

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MissRuthless
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Well the tank is kinda badly overstocked. Water parameters (temp, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, ph)? Stress from subpar conditions can cause livebearers to hold their fry, like if she doesn’t feel safe due to the two gouramis (probable fish death waiting to happen there) and pleco in tight quarters whom she knows will eat her babies. If she had reabsorbed them her belly would start to shrink. Anything I could say would just be conjecture without knowing water parameters, but the stocking situation is concerning... especially seeing as you’re about to have an explosion of livebearing fish. Do you have other tanks?
 
Somthing creative
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Well the tank is kinda badly overstocked. Water parameters (temp, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, ph)? Stress from subpar conditions can cause livebearers to hold their fry, like if she doesn’t feel safe due to the two gouramis (probable fish death waiting to happen there) and pleco in tight quarters whom she knows will eat her babies. If she had reabsorbed them her belly would start to shrink. Anything I could say would just be conjecture without knowing water parameters, but the stocking situation is concerning... especially seeing as you’re about to have an explosion of livebearing fish. Do you have other tanks?
I have a two gallon. I am getting more ten gallons this weekend but I really don’t want her to hold them for that long. Could I put her in there? I don’t have an extra filter for it but it would work for a little while. I would do daily partial water changes And over stocking???? There are only two other fish not including the mother and three small fry.? Plz elaborate as I do not under stand
 
Mazeus
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I have a two gallon. I am getting more ten gallons this weekend but I really don’t want her to hold them for that long. Could I put her in there? I don’t have an extra filter for it but it would work for a little while. I would do daily partial water changes And over stocking???? There are only two other fish not including the mother and three small fry.? Plz elaborate as I do not under stand
The other thing to consider is that she is giving birth and the gourami are immediately eating the fry.
 
PubliusVA
  • #5
There are only two other fish not including the mother and three small fry.? Plz elaborate as I do not under stand
In your original post you said there were two dwarf gouramis and a rubberlip pleco. That would be three other fish besides the guppy and guppy fry, two of which (the gouramis) are borderline for a 10 gallon and the third of which (the pleco) should definitely not be in a tank that small. How big is the pleco? If those fish are anything near full grown, I agree that the tank is currently overstocked. If they're juvenile, it will eventually be overstocked.
 
trainandfishguy
  • #6
hI so I made a thread talking about my guppy being 40 something days pregnant and not giving birth yet but ready to pop. Since then I have moved her to a ten gallon with two dwarf gourami, three guppy fry, and a rubber lip pleco. They are all swimming around the tank and I did a water change yesterday.
She is still ready to pop. She isn’t eating right away but she is eating some and slowly (she is usually a very aggressive eater) and she just hangs out in the tank, not swimming around a lot.
The other fish don’t bother her as the gourami don’t go to the surface much(they are relatively new to the ten gallon I had to move them a week or so ago) and the fry don’t seem to bug her (they are big enough not to be eaten)
I put a blanket over the tank for extra warmth (the thermometer is one that keeps it at a set temp and you can’t adjust) and for extra darkness and to muffle and nosies that may stress her.
Is there any other thing that could potentially help her give birth (home remedy’s as I really have no extra money) and could she have absorbed her babies?!?. She is still fat and squared off.
What tips can you give me? She has given birth before but it was over night and I didn’t even know she was ready to drop

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Do anything you can do to separate the guppies form the Gouramis. I recently seperated the mom in my 26 gallon and put her in a cycled 5 gallon planted tank. She gave birth to 10 baby guppies that are quickly growing. I got a 5 gallon tank just for this. Once they get bigger, I will keep a few to replace fish lost during the year and get rid of the rest.
 
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Somthing creative
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Do anything you can do to separate the guppies form the Gouramis. I recently seperated the mom in my 26 gallon and put her in a cycled 5 gallon planted tank. She gave birth to 10 baby guppies that are quickly growing. I got a 5 gallon tank just for this. Once they get bigger, I will keep a few to replace fish lost during the year and get rid of the rest.
In your original post you said there were two dwarf gouramis and a rubberlip pleco. That would be three other fish besides the guppy and guppy fry, two of which (the gouramis) are borderline for a 10 gallon and the third of which (the pleco) should definitely not be in a tank that small. How big is the pleco? If those fish are anything near full grown, I agree that the tank is currently overstocked. If they're juvenile, it will eventually be overstocked.
The other thing to consider is that she is giving birth and the gourami are immediately eating the fry.
Ok, so yes I forgot about the pleco so yes there are three. And the pleco is just under and inch long so he is still a juvenile but I plan on moving him, and the babies are there only until I know my mollies in my big tank won’t eat them. And finally is a two gallon enough for a mother to give birth in, then as soon as they are a month and a half to two months like my babies now I will move them. Like I said I am getting new tanks this weekend so I can always move the babies to that is necessary.
 
MissRuthless
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In your original post you said there were two dwarf gouramis and a rubberlip pleco. That would be three other fish besides the guppy and guppy fry, two of which (the gouramis) are borderline for a 10 gallon and the third of which (the pleco) should definitely not be in a tank that small. How big is the pleco? If those fish are anything near full grown, I agree that the tank is currently overstocked. If they're juvenile, it will eventually be overstocked.

The two DGs are undoubtedly both male - ONE is borderline for a 10 gallon and most would say not appropriate. Two is 100% not okay and one or both will eventually end up dead. They are also known to bully other fish, the possibility of which is greatly increased in such a small tank.

There are no plecos appropriate for a 10g. Regardless of size, their bioload is too great. He needs a bigger tank or to be rehomed.

I would not recommend putting your pregnant fish into any unfiltered, uncycled tank or container unless you don’t care about the fry surviving. A better option would be to buy or make a decent sized breeder box to hold her in, though a decent sized breeder will leave your other fish, who are already uncomfortable, with even less space.

Again, water parameters are needed, otherwise any suggestion other than relieving the stocking issues is just conjecture.
 
Somthing creative
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The two DGs are undoubtedly both male - ONE is borderline for a 10 gallon and most would say not appropriate. Two is 100% not okay and one or both will eventually end up dead. They are also known to bully other fish, the possibility of which is greatly increased in such a small tank.

There are no plecos appropriate for a 10g. Regardless of size, their bioload is too great. He needs a bigger tank or to be rehomed.

I would not recommend putting your pregnant fish into any unfiltered, uncycled tank or container unless you don’t care about the fry surviving. A better option would be to buy or make a decent sized breeder box to hold her in, though a decent sized breeder will leave your other fish, who are already uncomfortable, with even less space.

Again, water parameters are needed, otherwise any suggestion other than relieving the stocking issues is just conjecture.
Ok. I will move my pleco and move my Gourami’s soon. I thought one was male and one was female as the fins look different. Either way. I will try to get a new filter today if I can so as soon as I can I will move the female

Edit: what if I buy a separator for the 10 gallon Gouramis

The two DGs are undoubtedly both male - ONE is borderline for a 10 gallon and most would say not appropriate. Two is 100% not okay and one or both will eventually end up dead. They are also known to bully other fish, the possibility of which is greatly increased in such a small tank.

There are no plecos appropriate for a 10g. Regardless of size, their bioload is too great. He needs a bigger tank or to be rehomed.

I would not recommend putting your pregnant fish into any unfiltered, uncycled tank or container unless you don’t care about the fry surviving. A better option would be to buy or make a decent sized breeder box to hold her in, though a decent sized breeder will leave your other fish, who are already uncomfortable, with even less space.

Again, water parameters are needed, otherwise any suggestion other than relieving the stocking issues is just conjecture.
Ok. I will move my pleco and move my Gourami’s soon. I thought one was male and one was female
 
MissRuthless
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Female dwarf gouramis are not colored. They are pale brownish tannish and are generally not seen in stores. I would not separate the 10 because it’s barely room for one, which means half of it isn’t nearly enough room for one.
 
Somthing creative
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Female dwarf gouramis are not colored. They are pale brownish tannish and are generally not seen in stores. I would not separate the 10 because it’s barely room for one, which means half of it isn’t nearly enough room for one.
Ok. Then I will need to rehome him or have to do something till I can get those separated because now that I look extremely close at their fins one have little tears in them
 
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MissRuthless
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I was going to speculate that the difference in fins may be due to one chewing on the other if you can’t return one and don’t have anyone to take him you literally have no choice, a makeshift divider of some sort would be better than continuing to let them beat on each other - maybe you could leave a small space at the bottom so the pleco isn’t stuck on one side. It would need to be a VERY temporary arrangement though.
 
Somthing creative
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I was going to speculate that the difference in fins may be due to one chewing on the other if you can’t return one and don’t have anyone to take him you literally have no choice, a makeshift divider of some sort would be better than continuing to let them beat on each other - maybe you could leave a small space at the bottom so the pleco isn’t stuck on one side. It would need to be a VERY temporary arrangement though.
I’m moving my pleco to the 55 gallon before I do anything. So if not today definitely tomorrow. Also I got the gourami that way before they were housed together so no it’s not from that as the shape also looks very natural. Anyway as they are both bright blue so I am willing to conclude they are both male. I am going to try to give my gourami to a friend but if not I have no choice but to divide them until this weekend when I can get more ten gallons and get a new filter for it.

Edit: I moved the mother to a small tank by herself to give birth. I also moved the pleco
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