Help Gourami Ulcer? And Ich

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What is the water volume of the tank? 29 gal
How long has the tank been running? 6 if you count the two cycling days
Does it have a filter? Yes
Does it have a heater? Yes
What is the water temperature? 78 f
What is the entire stocking of this tank? 1 Male Dwarf Gourami
3 Mollies, (Two lyretail and one balloon)
2 lamp tetras (I forgot the actual name my bad)
And I apparently had a pregnant fish bc there’s now one little baby molly

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? Haven’t yet since I just got it but weekly
How much of the water do you change? Probably 25-50%
What do you use to treat your water? Prime Sea Chem
Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? Both

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes, for two days.
What do you use to test the water? I’m getting a PH kit tomorrow so I will definitely uodate this when I get it.
What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish? Once a day
How much do you feed your fish? A pinch
What brand of food do you feed your fish? Tropic Fish Flakes from Tetra Color
Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods? Once I fed a frozen bloodworm but never since.

Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish? 4 days
How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? A day ago
In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? My Gourami is still very friendly and he was shy at first but now he’s warmed up and a complete attention hog. I haven’t noticed anything weird other then the weird dive in his scales and I’ve found a few Ich dots on him. I just got him so I’m wondering if this was from the store and I just never noticed.

Have you started any treatment for the illness? Just bought Ich treatment but I haven’t yet.

Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase? Didn’t noticing anything but I’m thinking he may have gotten Ich from the store.

How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? Not at all, a complete attention hog and an angel honestly, loves to follow me around and watch me, eats well.

And maybe I’m just being super paranoid or something but I’m super worried, I was hoping I could help out this little guy as much as I could :/
 

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How did you cycle your tank in 2 days? It normally takes weeks. My guess is that your gourami is suffering from ammonia burn. Have your water tested ASAP. In the meantime do a large water change, at least 75%. Prime can also be used in an emergency to detoxify ammonia & nitrite, check the directions on the bottle.
 

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You say you know what the nitrogen cycle is, yet you say you've cycled your tank in 2 days without using any products and haven't actually tested to see if your tank is indeed cycled. So it sounds to me like it has little to do with your fish in particular (other than that it may have had some prior illness and is thus the first to show signs of poisoning) and more to do with bad water quality. Following GlennO's advice, do a large water change (at least 50%) and get your water tested for ammonia and nitrites, either at your LFS or with a liquid test, asap.
 
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It was the disease. I had the levels tested and everything was fine and he was the only fish with any issues. I did use a few products that I did not list, like safestarts. He had the disease since the store and I never realized. Thanks for taking the time to comment and I'm sorry for not doing enough research and not realizing sooner.
 

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It was the disease. I had the levels tested and everything was fine and he was the only fish with any issues. I did use a few products that I did not list, like safestarts. He had the disease since the store and I never realized. Thanks for taking the time to comment and I'm sorry for not doing enough research and not realizing sooner.
I see. Don't apologise, everyone makes these mistakes in the beginning. We live and learn. Sorry for your loss though, it is always hard to lose a fish.
Safestart may help your cycle establish faster, but it does not insta-cycle (<5 days) it as far as I have read from others' experiences with that product. That said, Dwarf Gourami are notorious for Iridovirus and other health issues. To save you future grief I would recommend picking a different gourami (thick-lipped gourami have a similar pattern, honey gourami can also be held in smaller tanks and are available in great colourations, three-spot gourami come in many, many spectacular forms). I also love the way dwarfs look but the manager of the local LFS explained that even after painstakingly picking a reputable, specialised breeder (not their usual supplier) for dwarfs, they still keep them on a separate row of tanks with their own filter so they won't risk infecting their other gourami species... that's how much bad experience they've had with them. Not to say there are not healthy specimens out there, but it is a huge risk.
 
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