Good Plants?

TagTeam
  • #1
I'm a beginner learning to grow plants.
Please look at the list of plants below that I'm considering to get next.
Any warnings come with any of them?
I'm choosing from this list because I'm assuming they'll be good beginner plants.

Here's my tank situation:

20g tall
25g
  • 8 BST, 2 Black Loach, 5 KuhliI Loach
  • BDBS
  • Beamswork EA
  • Amazon Sword, Java Fern, Java Moss, Wisteria, Green Cabomba, Hornwort
  • No ferts, no Co2

LEMON BACOPA - Bacopa caroliniana

CARDAMINE LYRATA - Cardamine lyrata

CRYPTOCORYNE RETROSPIRALIS, BARE ROOT - Cryptocoryne retrospiralis

BRAZILIAN PENNYWORT - Hydrocotyle leucocephalia

BANANA PLANT - Nymphoides aquatica

DIANDRA - Didiplis diandra

RANGERI SWORD - Echinodorus argentinensis

BROADLEAF CHAIN SWORD - Echinodorus quadricostatus

MONEYWORT - Bacopa monnieri

MOSS BALL - Cladophora aegagropila

CRYPTOCORYNE WENDTII - Cryptocoryne wendtii
 
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Discus-Tang
  • #2
You'll have a problem with the bushy, fast growing plants like the cabomba and hornwort as well as banana plant. They need tons of light and a dose of ferts and co2. THERE IS a way to grow them in low tech, though I have no idea how. If you watch the low tech aquarium videos on Foo the Flowerhorn's youtube channel you could probably find out.
 
SFGiantsGuy
  • #3
Yeah I concur with Discus-Tang, especially the Cabomba and some of the others on your wish list. Indeed ferts and CO2 especially on a 20 gal tall, a high tank like that needs mad deep PAR adjustment(s). And possibly with the Bacopa as well. The 25 gal not as critical, but both should be taken with almost equal consideration in contrast to the tank's specs etc.

However to directly answer your question, yes, those are all perfect choices sir!
 
TagTeam
  • Thread Starter
  • #4
Thanks guys
So far Hornwort is growing very well in the 25g (been in for a month), but the Cabomba has struggled.

I'm learning toward Pennywort and Moneywort next.
I'm also curious about Dwarf Sag and wondering if I'd be able to pull it off without ferts & Co2
 
TagTeam
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
Would Dwarf Sag grow in my set up?
 
-Mak-
  • #6
CO2 isn’t a requirement, but ferts are, even in low tech. CO2 is present at low levels in water naturally, while tap water does not contain enough plant nutrients. I would look into EI dosing for low tech tanks
 
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FriarThomasIII
  • #7
You can use osmocote in little ice cubes or gelatin tabs to fert plants.
 
Mahis
  • #8
What are some plants that:
Are floating plants
Reduce nitrates (I get high nitrates every now and then)
a good place for fry to hide
Grow fast
can be propagated easily
Thanks
BTW no duckweed, maybe something like hornwort
 
grac3
  • #9
giant duckweed, frogbit and red root floaters

these are all my favourites and have had no problem with nitrates (however my tanks are quite heavily planted). i'm not sure if you would consider their roots long enough for fry hides, but frogbit roots can get quite long. i've heard of people using (dwarf) water lettuce in tanks, but imo those are more for ponds
 
Mahis
  • #10
giant duckweed, frogbit and red root floaters

these are all my favourites and have had no problem with nitrates (however my tanks are quite heavily planted). i'm not sure if you would consider their roots long enough for fry hides, but frogbit roots can get quite long. i've heard of people using (dwarf) water lettuce in tanks, but imo those are more for ponds
Yea I think they are more for ponds any others that you know or have that fit my criteria?
 
HupGupp
  • #11
What are some plants that:
Are floating plants
Reduce nitrates (I get high nitrates every now and then)
a good place for fry to hide
Grow fast
can be propagated easily
Thanks
BTW no duckweed, maybe something like hornwort
Pretty much sounds like you're describing Guppy Grass.
 
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grac3
  • #12
Yea I think they are more for ponds any others that you know or have that fit my criteria?
i don't know of any other floating plants, but you can leave various stem plants floating up top, like guppy grass and hornwort. however, if you don't like the idea of them floating around, i think you could plant them in a bush like thing which would also provide lots of shelter/hiding spots for them
 
Mahis
  • #13
i don't know of any other floating plants, but you can leave various stem plants floating up top, like guppy grass and hornwort. however, if you don't like the idea of them floating around, i think you could plant them in a bush like thing which would also provide lots of shelter/hiding spots for them
I want hornowrt buy many say that the needles are a pain.
 
grac3
  • #14
i've had no problem with hornwort, i think people don't like that they grow too fast?
 
Nessaf
  • #15
Hornwort needles are only a pain if the plants are unhealthy. Healthy hornwort doesn’t drop its leaves (needles) at all. It does grow very fast which is why it can be a pain, but it is also great for fry to hide in.
 
BruinAquatics
  • #16
Not a floating plant but.... To remove excess Nitrates and Phosphates from ur tank, try using house plants. Check out my article down below on houseplants "in" fish tanks
 
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Mahis
  • #17
1. What are the differences between cabomba and hornwort. They are both floating, nitrates absorbing, good for fry, fast growing plants yes?

2. Also I had water sprite planted in the substrate and they all died. What caused this?
 
yeti79
  • #18
Water wisteria is also a good choice for floating
 
86 ssinit
  • #19
Water westeria, hornwort, and anacharis all grow as floaters. Though some of them can melt. Another I use is giant hygro. It works as a floater or planted. Something else for fry is susswassertang.
Where are you located? I can send you both the susswassertang and the hygro. If interested pm me.
 
Mahis
  • #20
How do I pm you?
 
MyFishAddiction
  • #21
You need 50 posts.
 
Cawafuoshi
  • #22
Hornwort needles are only a pain if the plants are unhealthy. Healthy hornwort doesn’t drop its leaves (needles) at all. It does grow very fast which is why it can be a pain, but it is also great for fry to hide in.
What is detrimental to their health? They sound like the perfect plant on paper (easy, hardy). Thanks!
 
emilymg
  • #23
Guppy grass and anacharis are great options, especially for fry. Super fast growers so they'll definitely suck up nitrates.
 
LHAquatics
  • #24
Any kind of moss will work too
 
Mahis
  • #25
What is detrimental to their health? They sound like the perfect plant on paper (easy, hardy). Thanks!
They sure do sound like the perfect plant! I also want to know what is detrimental to their health
Water westeria, hornwort, and anacharis all grow as floaters. Though some of them can melt. Another I use is giant hygro. It works as a floater or planted. Something else for fry is susswassertang.
Where are you located? I can send you both the susswassertang and the hygro. If interested pm me.
Is it possible to have hornwort and water wisteria in the same 20 gallon tank.
 
Nessaf
  • #26
They sure do sound like the perfect plant! I also want to know what is detrimental to their health

Is it possible to have hornwort and water wisteria in the same 20 gallon tank.
I currently have hornwort and water wisteria in my 55gal, they do fine together. I’ve noticed that hornwort seems to suppress Anacharis growth. I get so much of each that I end up mulching some into the garden.
1. What are the differences between cabomba and hornwort. They are both floating, nitrates absorbing, good for fry, fast growing plants yes?

2. Also I had water sprite planted in the substrate and they all died. What caused this?
I’ve noticed that cabomba seems to need fertilizer more regularly or it melts. It melts much easier than hornwort in my experience.
 

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Mahis
  • #27
Alright and what is detrimental to hornwort health?
 
Nessaf
  • #28
Alright and what is detrimental to hornwort health?
You need good lighting and a bit of fertilizer, that’s about it. It’s pretty much like a weed. I usually add ferts when I water change.
 

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