Glow Tetra Biting Male Beta Fins.

I have am 10G tank that has 1 glow tetra, 1 cardinal tetra, 1 male beta, and a ghost shrimp in it.
I know the tetras are schooling fish and need more of them and they need a bigger tank.
I am getting a 30G tank on the 20th of February and hopefully 4 or 5 more of glow tetras and cardinal tetras and a pleco (not the kind that get huge).
My ghost shrimp is pregnant so once I get the new 30G tank I will be leaving the shrimp in the 10G tank alone to have her babies then after she has her babies I'll transfer her to the 30G tank with the fish while the babies grow and develop.


My question is how can I try to keep the glow tetra from biting at my betta until I am able to get all the above done and set up?

 

If you keep them in groups (at least 6 of the same species) the betta might stop nipping.

Don't get 4 more glow tetra and cardinal because that will bring it up to 5 and they need a minimum of 6 in a tank. So I will stick with your other choice and get 5 more tetra of each species to get it up to the minimum 6.

 

I agree with what has been said.

They need cooler water than bettas anyway so I wouldn't keep them together long term. Being in water that's too warm, not being in a big enough school and being in a too snall tank will all make a fish more aggressive. As a temporary solution could you get a divider?

 

If you keep them in groups (at least 6 of the same species) the betta might stop nipping.

My apologies, I meant the tetras stop nipping

 

I'd rehome them both until you actually do have the proper tank. If you are dedicated to keeping them however, I'd still rehome at least one of them and get about 5 more of that same species. What kind of Pleco did you have in mind? Most types I can think of get pretty big..

Here's how I'd stock:

1x Betta

8x Cardinal/Glow tetras

6x KuhilI loaches

6x Ghost shrimp

 

I agree with what has been said.

They need cooler water than bettas anyway so I wouldn't keep them together long term. Being in water that's too warm, not being in a big enough school and being in a too snall tank will all make a fish more aggressive. As a temporary solution could you get a divider?

I'm not sure maybe I can I'd have to look into it but then the filter won't work because it'll be on one side of the tank no mater where or how I divide the tank

I'd rehome them both until you actually do have the proper tank. If you are dedicated to keeping them however, I'd still rehome at least one of them and get about 5 more of that same species. What kind of Pleco did you have in mind? Most types I can think of get pretty big..

Here's how I'd stock:

1x Betta

8x Cardinal/Glow tetras

6x KuhilI loaches

6x Ghost shrimp

I'm not rehoming my son's fish.
They were his birthday gift for his 2nd birthday.
In 1 week I will have the 30G tank and possibly a 2nd 10G tank from my sister in law.

 

I meant a mesh/net divider so the water flows through easily.

 

I meant a mesh/net divider so the water flows through easily.

Not sure where to get one

 

I'm not rehoming my son's fish.
They were his birthday gift for his 2nd birthday.
In 1 week I will have the 30G tank and possibly a 2nd 10G tank from my sister in law.

I don't mean to offend you by this, but if you can't keep them properly, there isn't a point in keeping them. I honestly don't advise having two schooling fish in a 30gallon

 

I don't mean to offend you by this, but if you can't keep them properly, there isn't a point in keeping them. I honestly don't advise having two schooling fish in a 30gallon

Like I said I have 1 10G tank right now and possibly a 2nd 10G tank and I am getting a 30G tank next Monday.
I can separate the tetras keep the cardinal tetras with the betta in the 30G and put the glows in a 10G if I get a 2nd tank.

 

Sorry if I did sound rude. I'm just simply giving my opinion. Neither species of fish would do well as a school in a ten gallon (they are very active fish) if you're willing to try keeping them both (I don't see that working well) you can go ahead and give it a try. If it does work, power to ya, if not, I'd rehome one of school. Once again, sorry if I sounded rude.

 

Get some craft mesh from walmart, cut it to size of inside of tank and you have an easy divider you can separate your fish from each other to prevent damage.

I think it is possible to do 12 tetras in a 30g, but I would keep the betta and the ghost shirmp (their babies are born as larvae most will not survive unless you have a serious amount of java moss for them to hide in and feed off of - they need small algae and microorganisms) in a ten gallon by themselves, you can create a small aquascape around them that will be really nice, you can do a clown pleco if you are set on one (they get about 3.5" max is what I have seen, they are really shy so don't expect to see them during the day - mine hang out under their driftwood pile pretty much all the time) they are a nice orange and brown striped fish.

Tetra are quick fish, they will lap a smaller tank with ease, which is why a 20 long is suggested for them (if you are getting a 30/29 gallon tank the length is fine for them) as they glass surf a smaller one.
If you find one type of tetra hard to get I would suggest rehoming unless you can find 5 buddies for each of them - they like cover so get some tall and short plants they can play in (plastic, live, silk, they don't really care - avoid plastic plants with your betta as they can tear his fins up). My schooling fish have at least eight members because it is amazing to watch them move together (or apart), they often do not do well with betta because the betta's fins are tempting or the betta tries to eat them (and if determined enough they will, I had a female that was slowly picking off my tetras when they were asleep, she however wouldn't kill guppies -long story).

 

Get some craft mesh from walmart, cut it to size of inside of tank and you have an easy divider you can separate your fish from each other to prevent damage.

I think it is possible to do 12 tetras in a 30g, but I would keep the betta and the ghost shirmp (their babies are born as larvae most will not survive unless you have a serious amount of java moss for them to hide in and feed off of - they need small algae and microorganisms) in a ten gallon by themselves, you can create a small aquascape around them that will be really nice, you can do a clown pleco if you are set on one (they get about 3.5" max is what I have seen, they are really shy so don't expect to see them during the day - mine hang out under their driftwood pile pretty much all the time) they are a nice orange and brown striped fish.

Tetra are quick fish, they will lap a smaller tank with ease, which is why a 20 long is suggested for them (if you are getting a 30/29 gallon tank the length is fine for them) as they glass surf a smaller one.
If you find one type of tetra hard to get I would suggest rehoming unless you can find 5 buddies for each of them - they like cover so get some tall and short plants they can play in (plastic, live, silk, they don't really care - avoid plastic plants with your betta as they can tear his fins up). My schooling fish have at least eight members because it is amazing to watch them move together (or apart), they often do not do well with betta because the betta's fins are tempting or the betta tries to eat them (and if determined enough they will, I had a female that was slowly picking off my tetras when they were asleep, she however wouldn't kill guppies -long story).

My betta leaves the cardinal tetra alone and only chases after the glow tetra because the glow tetra bites at the betas tail fins a lot.
Other than that my betta is pretty calm and relaxed around them.

 

Glo tetras are G ternetzi, a tetra known for being nippy. They were genetically modified because they had a colourless mutant form that held the fake colours well, they present a large flat flank and they are cheap to breed. They were not chosen for their character.
They are well documented as a nippy fish that only gets worse as it gets older, especially when the tank is too small like that. Once they start, they won't stop. He/she is eating the Betta's fins, and new shoal mates will learn the trick. Acquired tastes...

 

Glo tetras are G ternetzi, a tetra known for being nippy. They were genetically modified because they had a colourless mutant form that held the fake colours well, they present a large flat flank and they are cheap to breed. They were not chosen for their character.
They are well documented as a nippy fish that only gets worse as it gets older, especially when the tank is too small like that. Once they start, they won't stop. He/she is eating the Betta's fins, and new shoal mates will learn the trick. Acquired tastes...

I don't think they mean that type of glow tetra? Not the jellyfish and coral DNA ones, but the orange line ones? Correct me if i'm wrong TSmith but the skirt tetra type are very nippy, while the ones that look like orange neons do not nip any besides themselves/each other

 

I don't think they mean that type of glow tetra? Not the jellyfish and coral DNA ones, but the orange line ones? Correct me if i'm wrong TSmith but the skirt tetra type are very nippy, while the ones that look like orange neons do not nip any besides themselves/each other

It's kind of a see through opacity with an orange stripe

Barney the glow tetra



Fred the cardinal tetra



George the Beta



Prawn the pregnant ghost shrimp

Barney the glow tetra



Fred the cardinal tetra



George the Beta



Prawn the pregnant ghost shrimp

Mcasella these are the fish.

 

Okay when you get their group numbers up they should actually school with each other, at least a little. My neons and glow lights do even though both groups number about 12. But I would do the divider to prevent injury and give you peace of mind until you can get the bigger tank (though I would keep the betta and any ghost shrimp you want in the ten gallon where they will be less likely to be harmed - as the fast moving fish will stress out your betta).

 

Okay when you get their group numbers up they should actually school with each other, at least a little. My neons and glow lights do even though both groups number about 12. But I would do the divider to prevent injury and give you peace of mind until you can get the bigger tank (though I would keep the betta and any ghost shrimp you want in the ten gallon where they will be less likely to be harmed - as the fast moving fish will stress out your betta).

Okay thank you.

George the Beta


I moved my Beta into a temporary home a TALL cylindrical glass container until Monday because of George (beta) and Barney (glow tetra) have been fighting barney is missing 1/3 of his tail fin now because George got tired of barney nipping at him and has gone after him and taken a bite out of barney...



So George is in this tank next to my pregnant ghost shrimp and my glow tetra and cardinal tetra are in the 10 gallon tank.
George had a plastic square lid that has 3 decent sized holes in it over the top of his container and I have a florescent light over my ghost shrimp to hopefully encourage algae growth.




I am getting a 30 gallon tank as well as a 2nd 10 gallon tank on Monday along with 5 more of both tetras and some stuff to help the baby shrimps grow and develop and to get some algae grow stuff for them so they can eat.


Is there anything else I can do to help the algae growth?
Have I missed anything that I should do or are all my bases covered for now?


I plan to cycle my new tanks with gravel, decor, and parts of the current filter in my active tank to get it set up and cycled proper.

 

That betta tank is heated right?

 

That betta tank is heated right?

It's beside the radiator because I don't have a spare heater for him right now I'll have a heater on Monday like I said this all just temporary

 

I would put a container not containing anything but water on a windowsill that gets full sun all day (or stick it under a lamp on all day). when algae grows transplant ghosty into it where her current containrr is. if you are able put the Betta container over into the ten gallon to keep him warm.

 

I would put a container not containing anything but water on a windowsill that gets full sun all day (or stick it under a lamp on all day). when algae grows transplant ghosty into it where her current containrr is. if you are able put the Betta container over into the ten gallon to keep him warm.

I can't put betta back in the 10 gallon as he and the glow tetra attack each other.

Ghost had her babies and died.
I have a bubbler going in the tank and a lamp on over the tank for them day and night. I can see the babies swimming around. I have a fake plant in the container with the babies and fish food bits to try and encourage algae growth.
The container is sitting on a table in front of a window.

 

Do you have any algae wafers? You can crush them up very finely and sprinkle a small amount inside to feed the babies.
I mean keep him in the container and insert the container into the tank to keep him warm?

 

Do you have any algae wafers? You can crush them up very finely and sprinkle a small amount inside to feed the babies.
I mean keep him in the container and insert the container into the tank to keep him warm?

I guess I could put him in a container.
No I don't have algae wafers but I put a fake plant in the shrimp tank last night before momma had the babies and it's covered in a thin layer of algae

 

Those English names. The Glow or glo tetra is the nasty jellyfish gene one. The glowlight tetra is what you have. He's (looks like a male) biting from boredom, and in a group would probably stop. He's a peaceful species.

 

Those English names. The Glow or glo tetra is the nasty jellyfish gene one. The glowlight tetra is what you have. He's (looks like a male) biting from boredom, and in a group would probably stop. He's a peaceful species.

We plan to get them friends on the 20th and putting them in a 30 gallon tank and puting the betta in a 10 gallon tank and then putting the shrimps into a 2nd 10 gallon tank

I have my tetras in 10 gallon at the moment the baby shrimps are in a tall cylindrical jar temporarily.
I'm upgrading to a 30 gallon for the tetras on Monday and getting a 2nd 10 gallon tank.
My betta is in a container in the 10 gallon with the tetras so he is still warm and can't get at the tetras or the tetras get at him.

Beta will go into the 1st 10 gallon tank
Baby shrimps will go into a 2nd 10 gallon tank.
The tetras will go into the 30 gallon tank.