"Fancy Goldfish require a bare minimum 80L/20G for the first fish and 60L/15G for each Fancy thereafter." Most websites say this, but then again most people on here know more than half of these websites.
Okay I will try them.
That's a big list thank you. I'll probably try my LFS or petco, didnt even know petco took them.
Most Fancy goldfish get up to 8"(pompoms being the smallest 6"), it's better to let them grow to their full potential in a larger tank rather than getting stunted in a smaller one. Depending on how old they are they might already be stunted.
I may not be getting them as the seller hasn't replied back in 6 hours. If I do I will rehome all the goldfish then.
I think I'd be fine if you kept one in the 20 gal, though they would do better with a friend.
No that would be too crowded.
I never said two in the twenty, I just said he'd do better with a friend. I'd rather him find a good home where they can have friends than one be isolated in the 20 for the rest of its life.
That would be fine, especially if you stick with some of the smaller fancies. I personally love pompoms. They can get up to 6" and they have these wiggly thing coming out their noses.
I wish, they're my dream goldfish. I saw them once but never again. I eventually want to turn my 55g into a coldwater goldfish tank with a couple of them.
That was an interesting video. Does the pom pom regrow once you cut it completely off? That does seem like a very harmful thing for the fish I don't know why they would breed them especially if it always becomes overgrown.The reason I asked is because I have one, kind of by accident! I have a pompon demekin, I could recommend against it. (I didn't mean to get one, it was mis labeled haha) I have to stun her with clove oil every couple of months and trim her nose (last time I just trimmed them OFF) so she can eat.It's an irresponsible breed IMO. All those photos you see of a fish with a cute little pompoms on their faces are not entirely honest; it's mutated nostril tissue and it grows all over like floppy flabby broccoli. And, it KEEPS growing. I've seen it said "yeah the poms go in their mouth sometimes but it comes right back out again, no big deal" and that is SO not true. They are easily damaged; once they get big enough that she keeps biting them she becomes lethargic... I think it hurts and it makes her stop eating. She got so skinny, I finally did some research and did the surgery myself.
As for thinking they stay smaller than other fish, that's a big nope too.... Copper is 2.5 years old and is my biggest fish around 7" at this point, a big ol chonky girl and is probably gonna get bigger. I have her in a 75G tank with 2 other fancies.
Here is a little instagram video I made for the most recent time I cut her poms:
Don't mean to threadjack! I just want to post a warning, to anyone who thinks they want a Pompon... So few people have one and there is not a lot of good information about them.
Oh no poor thing, the internet lied to me. Like I've seen pictures of adults and it all looked like the pompoms gre up or off to the side not down towards the mouth. Thanks for letting me know. Guess I'll stick to the ones without wens or pompoms. So that leaves what, ryukin, butterfly or black moors?The reason I asked is because I have one, kind of by accident! I have a pompon demekin, I could recommend against it. (I didn't mean to get one, it was mis labeled haha) I have to stun her with clove oil every couple of months and trim her nose (last time I just trimmed them OFF) so she can eat.It's an irresponsible breed IMO. All those photos you see of a fish with a cute little pompoms on their faces are not entirely honest; it's mutated nostril tissue and it grows all over like floppy flabby broccoli. And, it KEEPS growing. I've seen it said "yeah the poms go in their mouth sometimes but it comes right back out again, no big deal" and that is SO not true. They are easily damaged; once they get big enough that she keeps biting them she becomes lethargic... I think it hurts and it makes her stop eating. She got so skinny, I finally did some research and did the surgery myself.
As for thinking they stay smaller than other fish, that's a big nope too.... Copper is 2.5 years old and is my biggest fish around 7" at this point, a big ol chonky girl and is probably gonna get bigger. I have her in a 75G tank with 2 other fancies.
Here is a little instagram video I made for the most recent time I cut her poms:
Don't mean to threadjack! I just want to post a warning, to anyone who thinks they want a Pompon... So few people have one and there is not a lot of good information about them.
Yep, the pompoms regrow, so far I have to do this about every 4 months. That's about how long it takes after I cut them completely off, to start impairing her functions. Keep in mind with fish breeding, making something "new" and "cool" as a mutant is kind of a status symbol... the mutant variety only has to last as long as it will breed true, and sell out. So you know, 6 mos-1year... what the fish is like 2, 3, 5 years after that? No longer the concern of an unscrupulous breeder. (just look at what has become of bettas, eek)
It honestly depends on the filtration and if you want to stunt them or not. Stunting doesn't do them any harm. If they are tiny little things and don't mind upgrading later on, you could probably squeeze three in there for a year or so. But two long term is what you would want to go, if you managed to keep a well planted tank, if the goldies don't turn it into an expensive salad! What matters is water quality and plenty of swimming room!
