Furan 2 And Kanaplex

Tomorrow I’ll be starting a Furan 2 and Kanaplex treatment for my betta. He has fin rot at the point where he has difficulty swimming and hangs out at the bottom of the tank.

Right now his tank’s parameters are all normal and have been normal for awhile (I took him from my sister because he was being neglected)

Is there any advice for using such strong medication? Also advice to increase his chance of survival? (also he’s in a planted tank)

Any advice is greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance!!

 

I've used that combo in a planted tank without issues. My cycle wasn't harmed either. I think the Furan-2 might have discolored the water but it didn't permanently stain anything.

With any medication, increased aeration can help. It's a betta so you don't want him fighting a current but some extra oxygen might be good if that's possible. Maybe an air stone, lowering the water level a bit if you have a hang-on-back filter, or just taking some tank water and pouring it back into the tank from above occasionally.

If I recall correctly you'll do partial water changes every other day so maybe do one just before the first doses so the water's as clean as possible.

Remember to remove any carbon from the filter before medicating. Cut it out of cartridges if needed. I don't use carbon except after medicating to help pull it from the water; you might consider temporarily adding some afterward.

Do you want to share a picture of the tank and fish? Just to help provide a better understanding of the situation. Or is the damage just from your sister's previous care?

I hope he improves.

 

Thanks for the helpful reply! All damage was from my sister. I’ve been closely monitoring his water parameters since I’ve put him in the new tank, and then I replaced all the plastic plants with real ones. Here is a picture of his tank:

I’ll send a picture of him later, right now I’m not at home.
His fin rot has discolored his fins, and eaten away at a good amount. The edges of his fins are black.
I’ll give a better description when I get home.

Using this medication, when should I stop? Should I take a break from it?

Also, does Furan 2 linger in the substrate?

Thanks.

I have been treating my fish with severe fin rot with Kanaplex and Furan-2 using this:
I am on day 4 and will medicating later today. I have a few questions:

After I finish this treatment, should I take a break and do a second treatment, or should I discontinue? (or something else?)

According to the box, Kanaplex does not stay in the substrate and is easily removed with carbon, but what about Furan 2?

How will I know when he is starting to heal?

Here is a sick fish template:

What is the water volume of the tank? 10 gallons

How long has the tank been running? Since the beginning of June

Does it have a filter? Yes, a HOB.

Does it have a heater? Yes.

What is the water temperature? 80 F

What is the entire stocking of this tank? 1 Male betta fish. (is a planted tank) (Please list all fish and inverts.)

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? Before treating the tank I changed about 30% every other day( an in-fish cycle) I took him from my neglectful sister and had no time to cycle a tank)
How much of the water do you change? 30%
What do you use to treat your water? Prime, API Stress Coat, Flourish

Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? Both

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? No

What do you use to test the water? API Freshwater Test Kit

What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia: 0PPM
Nitrite: 0PPM
Nitrate: About 10PPM
pH: 8 (will try to naturally lower it after betta is healed)

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish? 2-3 times per day

How much do you feed your fish? About 2 pellets each time

What brand of food do you feed your fish? Aqueon Betta Fish Food

Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods?
No.

Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish? I have had this fish since early June.

How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? Since I got him. It was milder when I first got him.

In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? Severe fin rot, maybe gill burn, can’t swim to top but still swims

Have you started any treatment for the illness? Kanaplex and Furan-2

Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase? I don’t know(he was my sisters)

How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? I can’t really tell, but he still is eager to eat food, and moves often around the tank floor.

Here are some pictures:



Btw, I have an air stone.

Thank you in advance.

 

Thanks for the helpful reply! All damage was from my sister. I’ve been closely monitoring his water parameters since I’ve put him in the new tank, and then I replaced all the plastic plants with real ones. Here is a picture of his tank:
I’ll send a picture of him later, right now I’m not at home.
His fin rot has discolored his fins, and eaten away at a good amount. The edges of his fins are black.
I’ll give a better description when I get home.

Using this medication, when should I stop? Should I take a break from it?

Also, does Furan 2 linger in the substrate?

Thanks.

I have been treating my fish with severe fin rot with Kanaplex and Furan-2 using this:I am on day 4 and will medicating later today. I have a few questions:

After I finish this treatment, should I take a break and do a second treatment, or should I discontinue? (or something else?)

According to the box, Kanaplex does not stay in the substrate and is easily removed with carbon, but what about Furan 2?

How will I know when he is starting to heal?

Here is a sick fish template:

What is the water volume of the tank? 10 gallons

How long has the tank been running? Since the beginning of June

Does it have a filter? Yes, a HOB.

Does it have a heater? Yes.

What is the water temperature? 80 F

What is the entire stocking of this tank? 1 Male betta fish. (is a planted tank) (Please list all fish and inverts.)

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? Before treating the tank I changed about 30% every other day( an in-fish cycle) I took him from my neglectful sister and had no time to cycle a tank)
How much of the water do you change? 30%
What do you use to treat your water? Prime, API Stress Coat, Flourish

Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? Both

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? No

What do you use to test the water? API Freshwater Test Kit

What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia: 0PPM
Nitrite: 0PPM
Nitrate: About 10PPM
pH: 8 (will try to naturally lower it after betta is healed)

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish? 2-3 times per day

How much do you feed your fish? About 2 pellets each time

What brand of food do you feed your fish? Aqueon Betta Fish Food

Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods?
No.

Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish? I have had this fish since early June.

How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? Since I got him. It was milder when I first got him.

In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? Severe fin rot, maybe gill burn, can’t swim to top but still swims

Have you started any treatment for the illness? Kanaplex and Furan-2

Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase? I don’t know(he was my sisters)

How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? I can’t really tell, but he still is eager to eat food, and moves often around the tank floor.

Here are some pictures:View attachment 581078View attachment 581077

Btw, I have an air stone.

Thank you in advance.

Remove all carbon from your filtration before dosing your tank with any medication. Follow the directions on the medication insert for dose and duration of treatment. After treatment is complete, do a water change and add carbon back to filtration for a couple of days to remove residual medication from tank. Medication may mix with substrate but carbon should remove any residual from tank. After treatment, monitor taank parameters carefully. Antibiotics can knock out some of your established beneficial bacteria and cause ammonia to spike some time after treatment. You can help minimize this by removing your established filter media before treatment (place temporary new sponge or media in it's place), place mature media in a container, cover it with some dechlorinated tank water and a bubbling air stone, add a couple drops of pure ammonia, cover it to keep dust out. Treat tank then replace old media back in tank after treatment and carbon has removed residual medication for 24-48 hours. Hope that is useful-good luck!

 

My guy was starting to look like that but nowhere near as bad. I dosed with Kanaplex and that stopped the deterioration. It happened fast and out of the blue. Now I have switched from using my tap water to adding minerals to distilled. Everything looks better. My Betta, my plants, my shrimp in another tank, everything seems to be doing better. I have been adding the new water gradually at water changes. A pH of 8 is high for a Betta. They prefer mid to low 7's and somewhat softer water. Using the mineralized distilled has lowered the pH in both of my tanks from 7.7 to 7.8 down to about 7.4. The water that goes in the shrimp tank is mineralized to a TDS of 185-195 while the Betta's water is mixed to 130-135. I have read that Bettas really like it even lower. Some say a TDS of under 100 but I have plants and snails in there too so I want to strike a balance.

 

Yikes that is some pretty bad fin rot! Hopefully you can get it under control! Keeping up with water changes will most certainly help.

 

Your perimeters look like the tank is cycled. I would highly recommend stress coat and Indian almond leaves, both do wonders in helping repair damaged fins. Poor little guy, I hope he gets better!

 

Were you able to save him? My fish is in a similar situation currently. He has pretty severe fin rot, doesn’t swim well and sits at the bottom of the tank. I’m starting Furan 2 tomorrow and have Kanaplex on the way but it won’t be in until Wednesday. Just curious if this remedy worked for you!

 

I used that combo for my last betta following those same instructions. he ended up dying a couple days after that. :/ he was really weak to start with and i'd done treatments with other meds + quarantine before that. i'm not totally sure what he had but I think it was a fungus (I thought it may have been bacterial until the day so like... not finrot but whatever it was, it was bad.

my other betta i'm treating right now for parasites using prazipro. he has some pretty bad finrot and isn't as peppy as he used to be. someone suggested it may be parasites (he used to bite his tail a lot but it would always heal quickly, now it's not healing and he's lost weight). i'm going to start using tannins and frequent water changes to help aid in healing. hope your betta gets better soon!

 

Yeah, my fish is doing a lot better. His fins are (slowly) starting to heal, and he now comes to the top of the tank for food.

 

That’s great!! I hope it will work for our little guy as well. He got stuck in his filter for 2-3 days while we were out of town and had a neighbor check in on him. I hope he can recover, but he’s been going downhill since the incident. The only difference is that ours hasn’t been eating anymore, but this gives me some hope anyway! Thanks for the response.

 

That’s great!! I hope it will work for our little guy as well. He got stuck in his filter for 2-3 days while we were out of town and had a neighbor check in on him. I hope he can recover, but he’s been going downhill since the incident. The only difference is that ours hasn’t been eating anymore, but this gives me some hope anyway! Thanks for the response.

Your welcome and good luck!

Is there any mild treatment I can use to help him recover? ( help his fins and immune system ,etc.) I was initially going to get Pimafix and Melafix, but I’d like some input before I waste a ton of money.

 

Is there any mild treatment I can use to help him recover? ( help his fins and immune system ,etc.) I was initially going to get Pimafix and Melafix, but I’d like some input before I waste a ton of money.

I wouldn't use either of those on a Betta. There's some concern that aromatic oils can damage the labyrinth organ. Best thing since he's already healing is regular weekly water changes and good food.

 

You should post some update photos! We would love to see him

 

You should post some update photos! We would love to see him

I spoke too soon on his improvement
He was doing better, but I’d much more lethargic than before.

I do have another question about his tank though. The PH right now is 8.2, which is obviously too high for a betta, but it has been stable. I want to find out what is making the PH so high so I can naturally lower it. I know that it isn’t the tap water because I just tested it and it was 7.5. Any ideas for what is raising it?
(I can answer questions about the tank if needed)
I am getting Indian almond leaves to put in the tank, which should lower the ph, but I want to find the root of the problem.

thanks.

 

I spoke too soon on his improvement
He was doing better, but I’d much more lethargic than before.

I do have another question about his tank though. The PH right now is 8.2, which is obviously too high for a betta, but it has been stable. I want to find out what is making the PH so high so I can naturally lower it. I know that it isn’t the tap water because I just tested it and it was 7.5. Any ideas for what is raising it?
(I can answer questions about the tank if needed)
I am getting Indian almond leaves to put in the tank, which should lower the ph, but I want to find the root of the problem.

thanks.

How often are you doing water changes and what are your other parameters right now? I see nothing in your tank that could be causing pH to rise. What is that black substrate you have in there? Are you vacuuming the substrate (at least as much as possible with the plants in there) every water change? Can you get a GH/KH test kit and check those? A high KH could explain your pH. For any recent pics of your Betta? IAL may help some to both get the pH down and provide some disinfectant properties for his fins.

 

I am doing water changes once a week. The substrate is CaribSea for a planted tank, and I vacuum the tank every two weeks, except for spot cleaning, which I do several times a week with a turkey baster. I can get a GH/KH soon , and I will let you know the results when I do, but my tap does have generally hard water( I just don’t have exact measurements)

Here is a picture. He is in the back of the tank so getting a pic was hard, but I will try to get a better picture later.

 

I am doing water changes once a week. The substrate is CaribSea for a planted tank, and I vacuum the tank every two weeks, except for spot cleaning, which I do several times a week with a turkey baster. I can get a GH/KH soon , and I will let you know the results when I do, but my tap does have generally hard water( I just don’t have exact measurements)

Here is a picture. He is in the back of the tank so getting a pic was hard, but I will try to get a better picture later.View attachment 622121

Ammonia nitrites and nitrates?

 

I spoke too soon on his improvement
He was doing better, but I’d much more lethargic than before.

I do have another question about his tank though. The PH right now is 8.2, which is obviously too high for a betta, but it has been stable. I want to find out what is making the PH so high so I can naturally lower it. I know that it isn’t the tap water because I just tested it and it was 7.5. Any ideas for what is raising it?
(I can answer questions about the tank if needed)
I am getting Indian almond leaves to put in the tank, which should lower the ph, but I want to find the root of the problem.

thanks.

8.2 is not harmful as long as it is stable, if it stays a stable ph then it’s fine, it’s if it spikes to 8.2 when it was lower before that causes problems, my ph is 8 or so and my betta and snails and everything that’s ever lived in that tank is happy because my ph is stable, it doesn’t fluctuate and it’s always been about 8. I would say your problem is something in the tank that is causing the ph to change drastically which would be stressful if the betta was used to a lower ph.

I would definitely recommend indian almond leaves because the are very healthy for bettas and do wonders in healing wound and fin rot and such. My betta loves them. If your betta is used to a lower ph and the ph is stressing him out then they might be good for that as well because they very gently lower the ph and relieve stress. I hope he gets better!

 

Ammonia nitrites and nitrates?

Last week when I checked, ammonia and nitrite were both 0, and nitrates were very low as well,(due to water changes)

8.2 is not harmful as long as it is stable, if it stays a stable ph then it’s fine, it’s if it spikes to 8.2 when it was lower before that causes problems, my ph is 8 or so and my betta and snails and everything that’s ever lived in that tank is happy because my ph is stable, it doesn’t fluctuate and it’s always been about 8.
I would say your problem is something in the tank that is causing the ph to change drastically which would be stressful if the betta was used to a lower ph.

I would definitely recommend indian almond leaves because the are very healthy for bettas and do wonders in healing wound and fin rot and such. My betta loves them. If your betta is used to a lower ph and the ph is stressing him out then they might be good for that as well because they very gently lower the ph and relieve stress. I hope he gets better!

Yeah, the ph hasn’t fluctuated too much. It changed about 0.1 over the course of a couple weeks. I just got IAL today so I will put them in later. I will continue to test the ph often and will let you know if anything unusual happens.

Thanks!