Fluval canister filter

I wouldnt put it too high, but as long as it sits below the level of the top of the tank, it should continue easy siphon no matter what, and the pump will keep it going as long as its on.

 

More bells and whistles that will fail in like 2 years or less.

 

More bells and whistles that will fail in like 2 years or less.

Yeah, looked into it and they are having some qc issues, especially with the display and the pump. Ill hold off for a while.

 

Never had a QC issue with any of my G3's.....the reports I've read relate to some users saying they have a flow problem. That's almost always because they don't clean the filters correctly or often enough. The G3 has a filter system which allows you to flip out the cartridge and change it....in just a few seconds, without having to turn the filter off. I run Eheims in most of my other tanks and they are an excellent filter, until it comes to changing the media, which is messy and time consuming, and you have to re-prime the filter again after every use.
I suppose you pays your money and you takes your choice.

 

Never had a QC issue with any of my G3's.....the reports I've read relate to some users saying they have a flow problem. That's almost always because they don't clean the filters correctly or often enough. The G3 has a filter system which allows you to flip out the cartridge and change it....in just a few seconds, without having to turn the filter off. I run Eheims in most of my other tanks and they are an excellent filter, until it comes to changing the media, which is messy and time consuming, and you have to re-prime the filter again after every use.
I suppose you pays your money and you takes your choice.

True, but I never replace media in any of my filters now. Seems like most of the flow complaints were after a filter change and were fixed with fluval shipping a new unit. Same with the displays. Ill just stick with the fx line for now.

 

I don't feel the outtake is as good as I like it to me. According to the readings it has dropped like 30%...There might be a clog in there that I need to figure out. So I'll need to disconnect the hoses and see I something pops out...l

 

I am a total beginner about to set up a 75 gallon freshwater tank.

I was originally hoping to buy the Fluval 407 for my tank however the Fluval 307 are significantly discounted at my LFS.
Should I go for the 307 or stick with my original plan to buy the 407?
Whats the big difference between them if any, besides the 407 being the newer model?

Advice is greatly appreciated!

-Meg

 

A 307 could work if your tank isn't overstocked. The 407 would be best though.

What you could do it use the 307 in addition to another filter like a $40 HOB filter or something.

The 307's pump is 300 gallons per hour which is exactly 4x your 75G tank. But the reality is that the hose length and filter media will slow that down to 2x or 3x your tank size.

So if you use the 307, just cut the hoses to be as short as possible and get a HOB filter to go with it. The redundancy is good to have as well.

 

A 307 could work if your tank isn't overstocked. The 407 would be best though.

What you could do it use the 307 in addition to another filter like a $40 HOB filter or something.

The 307's pump is 300 gallons per hour which is exactly 4x your 75 gallon tank. But the reality is that the hose length and filter media will slow that down to 2x or 3x your tank size.

So if you use the 307, just cut the hoses to be as short as possible and get a HOB filter to go with it. The redundancy is good to have as well.

Thanks for the advice! That helps me a lot!

 

Definitely the 407 for 75 gallon unless you want to supplement the 307 with another filter. In fact you may end up adding to the 407. If you intend to stock heavily consider the FX4.

Btw the 407 is not a newer model of the 307. It is larger. The x07 models replaced the x06 models.

 

Definitely the 407 for 75 gallon unless you want to supplement the 307 with another filter. In fact you may end up adding to the 407. If you intend to stock heavily consider the FX4.

Thanks for the advice, I’ll take that into consideration!
Will the current be stronger with the FX4, I know it can be adjusted but I am planning on keeping small fish.

 

The 307 and the 407 are both the newest generation. However, the 407 has a higher gph filtration rate.
I use a 406 on my lightly stocked 75 g plus a 80g sponge filter. But I see some using waaaay more filtration in a 75. But what I’m using seems to work fine. But a 307 is definitely not enough filtration for a 75. I’m using a 307 on my 40 g.

 

The 307 and the 407 are both the newest generation. However, the 407 has a higher gph filtration rate.
I use a 406 on my lightly stocked 75 g plus a 80 gallon sponge filter. But I see some using waaaay more filtration in a 75. But what I’m using seems to work fine. But a 307 is definitely not enough filtration for a 75. I’m using a 307 on my 40 g.

Thanks for the help.

My stocking plans are

-4x Honey Gourami
-11x Harlequin Rasboras
-9x Cherry Barbs
-1x Bolivian Ram
-9x Ottos
-7x JuliI Corys

Will the 407 handle this or should I go with the FX4 will the FX4 crest a strong current
at the end of the day I’m definitely more worried about the fish than the money.

 

Thanks for the advice, I’ll take that into consideration!
Will the current be stronger with the FX4, I know it can be adjusted but I am planning on keeping small fish.

Yes it is stronger flow so that is a consideration. Flow can usually be managed though, by experimenting with outlet location and direction and other means of baffling.

 

I am a total beginner about to set up a 75 gallon freshwater tank.

I was originally hoping to buy the Fluval 407 for my tank however the Fluval 307 are significantly discounted at my LFS.
Should I go for the 307 or stick with my original plan to buy the 407?
Whats the big difference between them if any, besides the 407 being the newer model?

Advice is greatly appreciated!

-Meg

I’m a a big fan of the FX4, I have all of the 07 line and an FX4 and I love the water change help! It’s way easier than dumping water in the tank

 

Thanks for the help.

My stocking plans are

-4x Honey Gourami
-11x Harlequin Rasboras
-9x Cherry Barbs
-1x Bolivian Ram
-9x Ottos
-7x JuliI Corys

Will the 407 handle this or should I go with the FX4 will the FX4 crest a strong current
at the end of the day I’m definitely more worried about the fish than the money.

That's very light stocking for a 75. The 407 will be fine.
Unless your plans change in future which is guaranteed when you become addicted to the hobby.

 

Yes it is stronger flow so that is a consideration. Flow can usually be managed though, by experimenting with outlet location and direction and other means of baffling.

Thanks that’s good to know

That's very light stocking for a 75. The 407 will be fine.
Unless your plans change in future.

Thanks for the advice I’m a total beginner, I really appreciate it.

I’m a a big fan of the FX4, I have all of the 07 line and an FX4 and I love the water change help! It’s way easier than dumping water in the tank

Do you find it creates a lot of current, If so how do you deal with it?

 

I am a fan of always going bigger. You never know down the road if you want to start adding more and more fish

 

I am a fan of always going bigger. You never know down the road if you want to start adding more and more fish

A very good point

 

Do you find it creates a lot of current, If so how do you deal with it?

So I actually keep SA Cichlids so the flow is fine, when they were young I would point it at the surface and bounce it off some driftwood

 

So I actually keep SA Cichlids so the flow is fine, when they were young I would point it at the surface and bounce it off some driftwood

Oh, good idea, thanks for the help!

 

Thanks for the help.

My stocking plans are

-4x Honey Gourami
-11x Harlequin Rasboras
-9x Cherry Barbs
-1x Bolivian Ram
-9x Ottos
-7x JuliI Corys

Will the 407 handle this or should I go with the FX4 will the FX4 crest a strong current
at the end of the day I’m definitely more worried about the fish than the money.

I’m horrible at stocking but that looks like a moderate stocking plan for a 75 with most of the fish having a low bio load.
My 75 has 15 Tiger barbs and 7 Queen loaches (which are a smaller loach at 4-5 inches when grown). I plan to add 3-4 more tiger barbs whenever the color morph I’m waiting for comes in.
But if I were doing my tank over again, I would look more closely at the FX4.
But hopefully those with more experience will continue to chime in.

 

I recently added the 407 in place of an aqua clear 70 on a 45G with a fluval c4 hob that’s been running for several months.
The clarity change within 24 hours after the 407 was put in was incredible, even at 1/4 flow.
The 307 with a hob would likely be fine but either way the 7 canister series is amazing.

 

I recently added the 407 in place of an aqua clear 70 on a 45G with a fluval c4 hob that’s been running for several months.
The clarity change within 24 hours after the 407 was put in was incredible, even at 1/4 flow.
The 307 with a hob would likely be fine but either way the 7 canister series is amazing.

Thank you for the advise, I appreciate it!

I’m horrible at stocking but that looks like a moderate stocking plan for a 75 with most of the fish having a low bio load.
My 75 has 15 Tiger barbs and 7 Queen loaches (which are a smaller loach at 4-5 inches when grown). I plan to add 3-4 more tiger barbs whenever the color morph I’m waiting for comes in.
But if I were doing my tank over again, I would look more closely at the FX4.
But hopefully those with more experience will continue to chime in.

I appreciate the advice

 

I’m horrible at stocking but that looks like a moderate stocking plan for a 75 with most of the fish having a low bio load.
My 75 has 15 Tiger barbs and 7 Queen loaches (which are a smaller loach at 4-5 inches when grown). I plan to add 3-4 more tiger barbs whenever the color morph I’m waiting for comes in.
But if I were doing my tank over again, I would look more closely at the FX4.
But hopefully those with more experience will continue to chime in.

Even on my 64g I think if I had my time again I would go with an FX4. I'm currently running a 406 plus an Eheim 2215. Although, there are some practical and risk management advantages associated with running more than one filter on a tank.

 

I think I’ll go with the FX4 the only thing I’m a bit worried about is the flow being too much for the Honey gouramis, does anyone think this will be too much current for them?

 

Gouramis do prefer minimal water movement but you should be able to baffle the flow. One of these might be an easy solution:

Flow Tamer FX for Fluval FX4/5/6 - Flow Tamer Bar

 

Gouramis do prefer minimal water movement but you should be able to baffle the flow. One of these might be an easy solution:

Flow Tamer FX for Fluval FX4/5/6 - Flow Tamer Bar

Thanks again for the help

 

I’m a a big fan of the FX4, I have all of the 07 line and an FX4 and I love the water change help! It’s way easier than dumping water in the tank

Is the water change help of the FX4 worthy of all the hype?

 

I have a FX4 on my 75 gallon and out of the box the current was way too strong. I added a 3 piece spray bar (first section shown in picture) and current much more manageable. I have 4 honey Gouramis and an Angel and they have no issues

 

I have a FX4 on my 75 gallon and out of the box the current was way too strong. I added a 3 piece spray bar (first section shown in picture) and current much more manageable. I have 4 honey Gouramis and an Angel and they have no issues

Thanks, that really helps me

 

Why not two 307s or a 307 and a 407? The redundancy won't hurt, and neither of those will require you to tinker much with flow in a 75. It will also allow you more points of flow. Just a thought.

 

Why not two 307s or a 307 and a 407? The redundancy won't hurt, and neither of those will require you to tinker much with flow in a 75. It will also allow you more points of flow. Just a thought.

Good point! Thanks for the advice

 

I keep relatively heavily stocked 55g, 65g and 75 gallon tanks with Community, African and SA cichlids.

Your stocking is light for a 75g.

If you want to go with a Fluval 307, in my opinion that will be more than sufficient. If it's from PetSmart, I suggest to download their app and play the in-app game to win coupons towards in store purchases, such as 20% off (including sales prices and price matches).

I would suggest to consider adding a pair of large sponge filters in the back corners powered by a decent air pump to supplement the 307. Something like a Fluval Q1, Tetra Whisper 60 or 100, Eheim 200 etc etc. I use sponge filters in all my tanks along with HOB's and/or canisters.

I can recommend ATI Hydro Sponge Pro, and Aquatop sponge filters. Models with coarse foam sponge will flow more water through them, collect more muck and have a longer interval between cleanings versus a fine foam sponge filter.

As an owner of an FX4, I'm inclined to think it would be a mis-match to your projected stocking. Those fish are not going to produce enough waste to warrant the extra flow output the FX4 offers.

Honestly, the new revised Marineland 375 Pro HOB in combination with a pair of ATI Hydro Sponge IV (or V) Pro sponge filters would be more than adequate for your filtration requirements.

Dont under estimate the power of sponge filters for mechanical and biological filtration. The majority of breeders and hobbyists with multiple tanks primarily use them for their main filtration.