Flowerhorn what?

MatildaLjungberg

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I wanted to start out by saying that I'm not meaning to hurt anyone's feelings if they're a fan of this kind of fish. I just don't see the attraction. To me this looks awful. I don't know a lot about Flowerhorns but this just seems excessive. Is it just me?




I would post a pic but I don't think I'm allowed to because I don't own the rights.
 

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Thats pretty gross looking, almost as creepy as ADF's.

But really no different in theory than the horribly disfigured goldfish that are very prevalent in our hobby.
 

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That does seem a bit much, and certainly not worth (to me) $1000!

I will admit that even though I'm not the biggest fan of flowerhorns, some can be really pretty.
 

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Sorry for the OT post, They gross me out, their pale, stretchy skin and spindly limbs just......yuck. They look like they belong in the bowels of a cave.

Eta, this post was in response to another post that dissapeared
 
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I agree with Alex. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, but personally I don't think a thread complaining about the way a fish looks is necessary, plus it's insulting to those who like Flowerhorns. I don't think that picture is representative of the species at all either, so people who aren't familiar with them are being given the wrong impression. What if someone who loves Flowehorns joins, and this is the first thread they see? It doesn't represent the website well, and FishLore is known for being very tolerant and accepting of a wide variety of views.
 

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The humps on their heads, the Kok (pronounced coke) is natural fat storage. There are a fair number of New World Cichlids that have it. It's a survival mechanism, when times are lean they have fat reserves that will keep them alive.

Red Devils, Midas, Green Terrors, Texas Cichlids, even Convicts can get it.
 

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While I think it's an odd looking fish, I think the color is pretty. And If I had that fish in my tank I would name it Brainio...
 
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It was not my intention to be insulting or to give Fishlore a negative image. I do apologize if I gave that impression.
 

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I don't see anything wrong with the thread personally, don't people have a right to dislike things? He's not ranting about it and it seems pretty respectful even.

Personally I think they look silly, but to each his own.
 

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I agree with jeta. I have looked around other FH's and some are really nice I just think that particular one seems to be a bit excessive like Matilda said. But that can happen to many fish I have seen other species (fish and mammals) where I think the "enhanced" characteristic has gone a little too far.

I have no problems with selective breeding to enhance certain features, but that looks to be a serious hindrance to the fish but without seeing it move, and without knowing much about flowerhorn's I am not going to pass judgement on how right or wrong that is. That would depend upon how the kok being so large effected the fish's quality of life. The fish may not be bothered by this look at all in which case I would say he would make an interesting centrepiece (maybe not worth that amount of $ though!)
 
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I've seen some epic nuchal humps on wild/f1/f2 fish in the past, so I could imagine with some selective breeding I could see them getting bigger in short order. I've also heard about injections but I don't know how true that is.

I recently read an article about nuchal humps that I thought was pretty interesting, here's the link.
http://www.cichlidae.com/article.php?id=145
George Barlow and Paul Siri considered many possible functions for the hump. It could be an organ of fat storage, offer mechanical advantage in fights, improve hydrodynamics, serve as an anti-predation device, or be the object of mate choice. First the researchers marshalled the facts. The hump changes size over time. It gets larger during courtship and actually shrinks during the parental phase. Males and females fight during the parental phase so if the hump was a fighting weapon, females should develop humps equal to those in males. Similarly, if the hump serves in fat storage or as protection from predators, why don't females develop them? Furthermore, the hump doesn't actually contain large volumes of fat, it is for the most part filled with water. The hydrodynamic explanation may apply to other kinds of fishes with humps (e.g., salmon), but the bulbous shape of the cichlid's hump is likely a hydrodynamic deterrent, if anything.
 

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I don't see anything wrong with the thread personally, don't people have a right to dislike things? He's not ranting about it and it seems pretty respectful even.

Personally I think they look silly, but to each his own.
What we're really talking about here is censorship. The problem with censorship/discrimination is that once it starts, where does it end? And who will be the arbiter? And what gives the arbiter the right? There's nothing wrong with stating an opion in a courteous way.
 
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While this discussion may not appeal to everyone please limit posts to the topic.
If it is not your cup of tea, please move on to another thread.

Personal attacks will not be tolerated.
 
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