Flowerhorn upside down

Hi, i really need help with my flowerhorn.
i have him for 2 years and 1.5 years hes sswimming upside down...
i tried so many things to help him but nothing works..
i hope someone here can help me.
here are some photos.
he is eating normaly and looks very good never had a problem, only this thing.
i dont know if its the swim bladder or stomach...
most of the time hes upside down but he can sswin upright if he tries really hard

 

Try reducing the water level to just above the height of the fish, 20-30% water change daily. Make sure the water is really well-aerated, a powerhead just below the water level will help create lots of bubbles. If that doesn't help after 2-3 days, try feeding boiled peas. Peel the skin off peas before feeding. Should help if it's the swim bladder.

Had a couple of swim bladder problems in a previous tank a few years ago and the first few suggestions worked. Haven't tried the peas before but that supposedly helps a lot.

 

Try reducing the water level to just above the height of the fish, 20-30% water change daily. Make sure the water is really well-aerated, a powerhead just below the water level will help create lots of bubbles. Also, try feeding boiled peas. Peel the skin off peas before feeding. Should help if it's the swim bladder.

Had a couple of swim bladder problems in a previous tank a few years ago and the first few suggestions worked. Haven't tried the peas before but that supposedly helps a lot.

thanks for replay!!
i tried feeding him peas.. he eats 1 and doesnt want any more. doesnt work.
i also tried moving him for a smaller tank and reducing the water level.. still the same.

 

thanks for replay!!
i tried feeding him peas.. he eats 1 and doesnt want any more. doesnt work.
i also tried moving him for a smaller tank and reducing the water level.. still the same.

Fish with swim bladder disease sometimes don't respond at all to treatment (if it is swim bladder disease). It is possible swim bladder disease could also be caused by a bacterial infection. API has a Furan-2 product that can treat the water. It's probable that if the disease is bacterial, there will be some other symptoms like fin rot, soars, or eye cloud. If nothing else is working, it might be worth a shot treating the water for a bacterial infection.

Mods don't come down on me if I'm wrong and not allowed to post links (I'm new) but here are a couple links to products:
Amazon.com : Interpet Swimbladder Treatment No.13 100Ml : Aquarium Treatments : Pet Supplies

Amazon.com : Fish & Aquatic Supplies Furan - 10 Powder Packet : Pet Supplies

 

Fish with swim bladder disease sometimes don't respond at all to treatment (if it is swim bladder disease). It is possible swim bladder disease could also be caused by a bacterial infection. API has a Furan-2 product that can treat the water. It's probable that if the disease is bacterial, there will be some other symptoms like fin rot, soars, or eye cloud. If nothing else is working, it might be worth a shot treating the water for a bacterial infection.

hes been like that for 1.5 years i think he would be dead if it was bacterial infection... i tried to treat the water with medicine before. do you think i should try again?
hes looking very good. no fin rot,soars,or eye cloud...

 

hes been like that for 1.5 years i think he would be dead if it was bacterial infection... i tried to treat the water with medicine before. do you think i should try again?
hes looking very good. no fin rot,soars,or eye cloud...

Ya, gotta agree living with bacterial infection for over a year is extremely unlikely.

It's also super possible that as he was growing, his swim bladder grew a deformity. It's uncommon but can definitely happen. If he's only about 2 years old and most of that time has had this problem, it might not be a disease or really a problem at all. If it's a deformed swim bladder, there's really no treatment.

Outside of (1) air constipation, (2) bacterial infection, or (3) bladder deformity, I'm out of ideas..

Best of luck getting it figured out! Hopefully, a more knowledgable person will jump into the thread.

 

Ya, gotta agree living with bacterial infection for over a year is extremely unlikely.

It's also super possible that as he was growing, his swim bladder grew a deformity. It's uncommon but can definitely happen. If he's only about 2 years old and most of that time has had this problem, it might not be a disease or really a problem at all. If it's a deformed swim bladder, there's really no treatment.

Outside of (1) air constipation, (2) bacterial infection, or (3) bladder deformity, I'm out of ideas..

Best of luck getting it figured out! Hopefully, a more knowledgable person will jump into the thread.

thanks alot for your help!
i really hope i can fix him asap.

 

I would bet it's either an old injury or just down to genetics. Flowerhorns are funky hybrids and because they are so jumbled up gene wise they often don't live too long because of their deformities. Perhaps his swim bladder just didn't develop properly and he'll never be normal.

Seeing as he's been like that for so long he probably won't return to normal. You'll just have to take good care of your handicapped boy. If you want to get creative you might be able to make a sort of sling that has some buoyancy to help keep him upright and he should be able to swim around that way. I remember seeing how they made a device for a deformed goldfish a while back. Google "handicapped goldfish" and you should see some idea there.

 

Welcome to the forum KenDror .

So your flowerhorn has been like this for 1 1/2 years? It definitely looks healthy though!

I agree and would think it has something to do with the swim bladder.

Probably minor "surgery" may be the only course of treatment, either by a Vet or yourself. Air might have to be vented so the Flowerhorn can regain proper use of the swim bladder.

There is a lot of information and videos on the subject, but you will have to find one specific to the anatomy of your Flowerhorn.

 

I would bet it's either an old injury or just down to genetics. Flowerhorns are funky hybrids and because they are so jumbled up gene wise they often don't live too long because of their deformities. Perhaps his swim bladder just didn't develop properly and he'll never be normal.

Seeing as he's been like that for so long he probably won't return to normal. You'll just have to take good care of your handicapped boy. If you want to get creative you might be able to make a sort of sling that has some buoyancy to help keep him upright and he should be able to swim around that way. I remember seeing how they made a device for a deformed goldfish a while back. Google "handicapped goldfish" and you should see some idea there.

i think i will try that... i will update.
thanks alot!

Welcome to the forum KenDror .

So your flowerhorn has been like this for 1 1/2 years? It definitely looks healthy though!

I agree and would think it has something to do with the swim bladder.

Probably minor "surgery" may be the only course of treatment, either by a Vet or yourself. Air might have to be vented so the Flowerhorn can regain proper use of the swim bladder.

There is a lot of information and videos on the subject, but you will have to find one specific to the anatomy of your Flowerhorn.

hi. i already searched for that but couldnt find anything... i dont think i will do that if i dont have enough knowledge. i dont want to hurt him.
thanks alot!

 

I would bet it's either an old injury or just down to genetics. Flowerhorns are funky hybrids and because they are so jumbled up gene wise they often don't live too long because of their deformities. Perhaps his swim bladder just didn't develop properly and he'll never be normal.

Seeing as he's been like that for so long he probably won't return to normal. You'll just have to take good care of your handicapped boy. If you want to get creative you might be able to make a sort of sling that has some buoyancy to help keep him upright and he should be able to swim around that way. I remember seeing how they made a device for a deformed goldfish a while back. Google "handicapped goldfish" and you should see some idea there.

Generations of inbreeding and selective breeding has screwed the flowerhorn line, being a hybrid isn't a issue. Might be the case that his swim bladder is deformity or it can be an issue caused by overfeeding of high protein food. Later is likely with flowerhorns as foods like that are hyped.