20 Gallon Tank Fishless cycle advice needed!

jdhef

I've never used Turbo Start 700, so I have no opinion on that. I have done several "fish-in" cycles using Tetra SafeStart+ and had success everytime I used it. I've never used it to cycle fishless, so I really can't give any advice on what you want to bring the ammonia level up to. I know other member have cycled fishless with TSS+, holefully one of those member will see this and respond.

While it won't hurt anything to use Prime, when fishless cycling, any water conditioner will work since you don't need to detox the ammonia.

One thing to note, when using TSS+, you need to wait at least 24 hours after any water conditoner is used before adding the TSS+.
 
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cloverpile

I've never used Turbo Start 700, so I have no opinion on that. I have done several "fish-in" cycles using Tetra SafeStart+ and had success everytime I used it. I've never used it to cycle fishless, so I really can't give any advice on what you want to bring the ammonia level up to. I know other member have cycled fishless with TSS+, holefully one of those member will see this and respond.

While it won't hurt anything to use Prime, when fishless cycling, any water conditioner will work since you don't need to detox the ammonia.

One thing to note, when using TSS+, you need to wait at least 24 hours after any water conditoner is used before adding the TSS+.
I’ve never tried a fish in cycle before but I’d still love to hear how that went for you!

Hello! I’ve only just started my fishless cycle about 2 days ago and am already going through a bacteria bloom, water is cloudy since last night, and my filter had begun blinking!
I purchased the aqueon 20 gallon started kit and it came with the same brand quiet flo filter.
However it only came with one filter pack to put in said filter cartridge….and it’s already begun blinking.
From what Ive read in most forums this filter brand tend to be gimmicky and most even throw away the light when installing this filter to their tank.
But my question is should I myself ignore it?The stores near me do not have this brands filters available to me. Will this ruin my fishless cycle, mess the filter up, or even over flow my tank?
 
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mattgirl

The first thing I would do is disable that blinking light. The second thing i would do is replace that cartridge with more permanent filter media. A sponge cut to size and some matrix, ceramic media or even lava rocks in a media bag and you should never have to buy another cartridge. The sponge can be rinsed and reused for years. The other media should never have to be replaced.
 
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cloverpile

The first thing I would do is disable that blinking light. The second thing i would do is replace that cartridge with more permanent filter media. A sponge cut to size and some matrix, ceramic media or even lava rocks in a media bag and you should never have to buy another cartridge. The sponge can be rinsed and reused for years. The other media should never have to be replaced.
Thank you for responding! Do you have an pictures, videos, or even other people posts from here that have a visual assembly of that and links where to buy this stuff? I want to get this right and don’t want to buy the wrong things since this would be my first media filter :’]
 
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jdhef

It has always gone great. If you want to give one a try using TSS+ here's what you do:
1) Fill tank with water treated with a water conditioner (such as Prime)
2) Wait 24 hours (very important, since the water conditioner will cause TSS+ to fail if it is added less than 24 hours after the water conditioner was used)
3) Add a few fish and an entire well shaken, appropriate sized, bottle of TSS+ (don't worry if the bottle will treat a larger tank, just add the whole bottle you can't overdose, but you can underdose)
4) Do nothing but lightly feed your fish for the next 14 days. No water changes, no adding any chemical...nothing)
5) On day 14 test your water and if all worked correctly...congrats, you've cycled your tank.
 
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cloverpile

It has always gone great. If you want to give one a try using TSS+ here's what you do:
1) Fill tank with water treated with a water conditioner (such as Prime)
2) Wait 24 hours (very important, since the water conditioner will cause TSS+ to fail if it is added less than 24 hours after the water conditioner was used)
3) Add a few fish and an entire well shaken, appropriate sized, bottle of TSS+ (don't worry if the bottle will treat a larger tank, just add the whole bottle you can't overdose, but you can underdose)
4) Do nothing but lightly feed your fish for the next 14 days. No water changes, no adding poop any chemical...nothing)
5) On day 14 test your water and if all worked correctly...congrats, you've cycled your tank.
That sounds so simple I may just try it! What fish do you recommend for a fish in cycle
 
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jdhef

Whatever fish you plan to keep.
 
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mattgirl

You also mentioned a media bag what does that look like? And do I just assemble these items into the bag and I should never have to change out this filter right? Or how often do I change the filter with this media.
A media bag is simply a bag you put some of this stuff in. Media is a word that pretty much covers anything we put in our filters to filter the water and for bacteria to grow on. The foam doesn't go in the bag. You just cut a piece to fit your filter. I know it is easier to just ask but spend a bit of time reading up on this and you will find a world of information right here on this forum.

I just gave you an example of the various kinds of bio-media I was talking about. Personally I use a mixture of 3 or 4 different types but only one type is needed. This type of filter media just needs to be rinsed from time to time. The foam may one day have to be replaced but it will last a very long time. The other bio-media will also have to occasionally be rinsed off in water pulled from the tank during a water change but it should never wear out.
 
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JeremyW

You don't need to overthink it, or overspend on it.

There are a ton of filtration products you can buy, but at the end of the day aquarium filtration is pretty basic. Even the most expensive canister filters are mostly just pumping water through sponges.

So I think the main thing is to just get a sponge in there. Once you have that, its hard to go wrong with whatever else you do. In my opinion, the sponge is the real workhorse of the operation.

Don't stress about making the wrong choice. None of this needs to be permanent. Aquariums are ongoing projects. If you get bio-rings today, and decide in a month that you'd rather have something different, you can change it. Just don't change all your media at once or you can interrupt your cycle. Do it incrementally.
 
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