Fish Were Over Fed

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  1. Tristen

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    I went on vacation and the person watching my fish extremely over fed them. There was food everywhere. I changed 50 per cent of the water and pumped the gravel. What should I do next. One fish is already dying. The temperature was extremely low because they did not monitor it and then when I came back and turned of my AC the temperature shot up again from 74 to 79 degrees. How long should I wait to feed the fish? What should I do about the temperature?
     
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    What size tank? You can throw some ice in the tank to get the temp lowered. Just make sure to add a small amount of dechlorinator at the same time.

    Have you tested your water parameters?
     
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    Depends on the situation. But you should test your water; you probably have an ammonia and/or nitrite spike that is creating a poisonous environment. Feeding probably won't be an issue or concern for at least a few days and you don't want to add to the problem. Daily water changes probably would be a good idea.
    As for the temperature, which one do you want it to stay at?
     
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    No I am doing a test right now. I want the temperature to stay at about 78 degrees so I don’t want to make it any colder. It’s a 40 gallon breeder.
     
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    I don't think the temp had anything to do with the issues you are having, as it would have been a gradual rise/drop. I would just try and maintain the temp (78) you have now, if that is where you normally keep it.
     
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    This is a common situation. A hobbyist goes on vacation and finds someone to feed the fish while they're gone. They come back and the water conditions are foul because the person trying to help overfed the tank.

    The fishkeeper is the person to ensure that doesn't happen, not the person who agrees to help out. They're usually given a jar of fish food and little else to guide them.

    Same thing with vacation feeder cones.

    If you're going away for a week or 10 days, I suggest you don't feed the fish at all. They'll be just fine when you get back. If I'm going to be gone for a week or so, I vacuum the gravel, do a water change, and turn off the lights. I don't feed heavily before I leave, because that just increases ammonia. If you're going to be gone a couple weeks or more, and you have to have someone step in and do some feeding, portion out each day's feeding so the person doesn't have to use their inexperienced judgement to determine how much food to add. Another option is an automatic feeder. Take the guesswork out of it for the person who's stepping in to help.

    In the current situation, test every day and be aggressive with water changes.
     
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    I agree with others, I rarely have people feed my fish while I'm gone. I've gone 14 days before with no issues.

    I would do some 50-75% water changes daily and test your water before you do each time. Once your parameters look good you can back off to a normal water change cycle.

    As far as feeding, if they were that over fed I'd probably fast them at least a few days. Once you start feeding again just be careful not to over feed at all.

    The temp also doesn't really concern me to the point I'd do anything drastic to reduce the temp. I'd just turn down the heater and let it resolve itself. Ice can cause a cold spot in the water which can stress the already struggling fish. 79 degrees is not honestly that hot, I keep most of my tanks between 76-78 degrees regardless.
     
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    I really don't see how ice can cause a cold spot, unless you do not have sufficient water movement in your tank.
     
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    As the ice is melting there will be a concentrated spot until it filters through the tank. In cases where tanks need cooled off immediately where the heat is dangerous to the fish yes that is an option. But even then I'd look into safer alternatives that cool water at a slower temp versus a big temp change all at once from the ice.

    The best option for lowering the tank temp would be a fan on the top, water movement, water change with SLIGHTLY (not much cooler at all) cooler water, etc. Gradual changes are key, quick solutions are often what can kill fish from stress or shock.

    Unless its an emergency situation needing to cool down an excessively high temp tank I really do not see a need to risk the fish.
     
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    First off... What are your water parameters?
     
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    I just finished testing I had to change the water in my smaller tank. 0 ammonia 0 nitrites 5 nitrates.

    There is no spike in the water everything is good.

    My water conditions are fine there is still very small amounts of food in the gravel that I could not get while vacuuming.
     
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    Hm, that's surprising but good. Then I don't know if you need to do anything as far as treatment. Are any fish acting odd or sick?
     
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    Yes I have one honey gourami who looked really lethargic. The next day he wasn’t lying on the floor almost lifeless. I’ve scooped him out and put him in a bowl cause it doesn’t look like he has much longer
     
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    Oh yes that is very good actually! If there is no spike then honestly I'd probably go back to business as usual just keep testing parameters the next few days just to be safe Lucky you! Usually situations like this don't end as well in terms of water quality.
     
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    In your opinion what should I keep the temperature at. I have 1 honey gourami and 7 ember tetras.
     
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    I usually keep all my tanks in the 76-78 range, I'd have to look up those specific fish but I don't recall them being ones that need higher or lower temp off the top of my head. Most of mine stay in that range except my bettas which have warmer water I hope that helps!
     
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    An adjustable heater with a thermostat shouldn't allow your tank temp to drop like that. Even if your ambient temp (the air temp around the tank) is consistent, without a heater tank temps can still fluctuate a few degrees due to: direct sunlight on the tank (overheating), changes in air movement across the water (evaporation), movement of the water itself (filter/ airstone) etc. My suggestions: check your parameters (pH, ammonia, nitrites and nitrates), do big water changes to correct those, thoroughly vacuum substrate to remove old rotting food and detritus, thoroughly rinse filter media in dechlorinated water, get a new, competent adjustable, thermostat controlled heater and set it to maintain the desired temperature (and monitor it for a couple days with a decent tank thermometer). In the future, as @GuppyDazzle suggested, portion out feedings for your fish keeper, make those feedings only once a day and much smaller than what you normally feed if you'll be gone more than a week (small pill dispensers work well and are marked with the days of the week to eliminate guessing). All you can do now is correct the problems already there.
     
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    My water parameters are fine. I just have some food left in the substrate. I have an adjustable heater but my room is upstairs in my house and I live in New York. It gets extremely hot in my room and I’m talking like 95 degrees. To stop that I had to leave my ac on at 73 degrees to keep the room cool. Eventually the room was so cold that the heaters couldn’t compete with it for 7 days. While I’m at my house I’m able to monitor it so that doesn’t happen.
     
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    Interesting. When I lived in Florida, during the summer months, the water I got from my hose to change the water on my oscar tank was too warm out of the spigot. I alleviated this by freezing empty 2 liter bottles of water, and placing them in the tank. I would then fill the tank, letting the water from my hose flow directly over the frozen two liter bottles. And that was with filters off, and no water flow. Never had an issue in 4 years of doing it this way. I would think a properly filtered tank, with adequate water circulation, would stop any cold spots from happening. (Especially since they would be at the top of the tank, where the ice would be floating, and where most filters empty into the tank).
     
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    Well luckily my tank doesn’t need to be cold now
     
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