Fish dieing

Rcslade124

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What is the water volume of the tank? 29g
How long has the tank been running? Oct 1
Does it have a filter?
Yes 2
Does it have a heater?
Yes
What is the water temperature?
78
What is the entire stocking of this tank?
Was 17 cardinal tetras. (Please list all fish and inverts.)

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? Weekly
How much of the water do you change?
50-75%
What do you use to treat your water?
Prime
Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water?
Yes hover over sand

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish?
Yes finished 2 weeks ago
What do you use to test the water?
Api master
What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia:0
Nitrite:0
Nitrate:20
pH:6.6

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish?
Only two times
How much do you feed your fish?
Couple small pinches
What brand of food do you feed your fish?
Tetra flakes
Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods?
Not yet

Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish?
16 hrs
How long ago did you first notice these symptoms?
Woke up this morning to 4 dead
In a few words, can you explain the symptoms?
Found four dead at 9am. Now 2 more looking sick
Have you started any treatment for the illness?
No
Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase?
No
How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all?
Too new to tell

Explain your emergency situation in detail. (Please give a clear explanation of what is going on, include details from the beginning of the illness leading up to now)
Ok bout 17 cardinal tetras at 2pm yesterday. Acclimate to water and put them in. 9 am before work 4 dead removed them. Pics attached. Came home tested water. Pic attached. One is on bottom of tank one has a white spot on back.
Of course this happens I have 3 more fish arriving in the am. Should I love all cardinal tetras to a qt. (Which I dont have will have to be a 5g with air stone and media.
Do I remove 100% of water and refill it and hope nothing is left before new fish arrive?

Pic 1and 2 4 dead this am.
Pic 3 one from tonight.
Pic 4water test
Pic 5 2 sick fish
Pic 6 one with white on back.
Pic 7 big white stomach on a few
 

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kallililly1973

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Sorry for your losses. Not by any stretch an illness or disease pro but getting 17 and having 4 die in a newly established tank i hate to say but that seems to be a good ratio. Of course we want em all to live but some of them could have been weak from the store or delivery. Did u get them local or through a mail order? I would agree with setting up a small QT and moving any of them that appear ill or "not right" and continue to test your water as you await and add your other new fish... Thats about all the help i can be. Sorry again!
 
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Local I knew I shouldn't have tried the shop. Most tanks look rough but this one didnt
 

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Picture of the two in your other thread looked like columnaris .The one had classic saddle back and the other a familiar tail infection with internal swelling starting to show .
Cards prefer water in the 80s but with bacteria running about I don't know what to say about temp ..
The treatment for columnaris now as far as most keepers go is a death sentence ?
Before the two pics in your other thread I was going to commnet losing 4 out 17 is average if not good % for cards but after seeing pics I don't think you are done counting the losses ..
Since they are alone in tank treat as you like ..
Sorry ..
I would change water for sure … Just me ..
 
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Now columnaris is contagious right? I have 3 apisto coming tomorrow so am I screwed
 

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Yes very contagious if that is what it is ..It also sometimes only infects weak stressed fish but since we will consider all your fish new [ just acquired/shipped ] we will also consider them weak and stressed .
You may want to look into proactively treating your tank ?
Even if the fish showed no signs before you introduced the apistos you never know when fish from two different sources are introduced ..Sometimes it becomes painfully clear which fish have a greater immunity to issues and which don't when you mix fish ..
Most cards are still wild caught ..
 
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Proactive treatment with what? So I'll pull the cardinals out do a 100% water change then am in still at risk for more issues in main tank?
 
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So should I just pull all the cardinals? Or just ones with big belly that are white?
 
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