First Time With Honey Gouramis..i Have Questions Help

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  1. Fishstery

    FishsteryValued MemberMember

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    Hey guys!

    It's been a big stock month for me between moving tanks/adding a new killifish tank plus finishing/adjusting the stock on my 12 gallon long community tank. Current stock is:
    5 panda cories
    7 cardinal tetras
    3 scarlet badis
    1 peacock gudegon
    2 honey gouramis
    Anyways, I brought my honey gouramis home last night. I originally went to the LFS for a dwarf gourami but they didnt have the color variation I wanted and the few they did have were mostly sick with some type of fungus. I was also weary because I know how they can end up with an attitude after getting comfortable in a tank, so I decided with my badis that honey gouramis were a better fit. They are adorable and pretty with their yellow.
    I wanted to know if someone can help me sex these two, not sure if the striped one is a female and the orange one is Male or if they are both males.
    Next question is I know that they can be timid fish, mine still dart behind the plants every time I come near the tank. Will they come around on their own? It's hard to feed them when they wont come out if I'm in front of the tank.
    Lastly is the orange gourami is much more active than the striped one. He/she darts around the tank and accepted a few bloodworms after the water change earlier but the striped one wouldn't eat. It doesnt swim as much and seems to be breathing heavier than the orange one. It sometimes just sits at the surface if the water like in the picture and doesnt move when I come over. Its moved around some but seems more stressed than the orange one...I cant tell if its having a hard time acclimating or if it's just taking more time to get comfortable than the orange one. Heres pictures to help with the sexing:
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    The one with a stripe is without a doubt male and it appears that the other one is a female but it could be a male that has not developed its pointy dorsal. However that seems like a lot of fish for a 12 gallon. They could not be enjoying the commotion that’s present around them.
     
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    Aqadvisor rated my stock at 96% stocked but 308% filtration because I'm using a finnex 360 canister rated up to 95gph. I understand what you mean about the commotion of the community because I chose fish stock that would occupy all tank levels. I hope they get comfortable after a few days, me having to do a water change probably didnt help. The orange guy is quite animated though, he doesnt mind the other fish hes just scared of me lol! I'm worried about the other one kicking the bucket though, really hoping it's just stress and he makes it through acclimation. As for the stock although the badis probably have the smallest presence in the tank I'm thinking about moving some things around, taking the breeding neocardina shrimp colony from my 5 gallon and the badis and putting them in the 3.4 I set up for my killifish, and moving the killie to the 5 gallon where the shrimp would have been. Not sure what I wanna do though. What should I feed these guys daily? I have betta pellets, hikari micro pellets, hikari sinking wafers, tetra min flakes, and frozen daphnia brine shrimp and bloodworms. I feed my gudgeon 3 times a week with the bloodworms so i can feed them those when I feed her. The tetras get flake daily in the morning and the cories get a wafer daily when I shut the tank lights off.

    Edit I also have the option of putting the honeys in the 5 gallon with my breeding shrimp but I dont know if they will eat my fry. I got lucky and had a Male betta with them for a year who didnt care to eat the shrimplets but sadly lost a battle to columnaris last week. Not sure why he got sick because the tank is over a year old with 0 ammonia and nitrites and 10 ppm of nitrates. Shrimp are still going strong.
     
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    But doesn't the stripe mean that it's female? All of my girls have stripes, and I know that they're girls because the boys are super colorful and smaller.
     
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    That's what I thought but I'm unsure. The orange one is smaller than the striped one, but the striped one has a slightly more pointed dorsal, although I wouldn't say the orange one has a "rounded" dorsal to begin with.
     
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    Yes but his/her dorsal is clearly pointed . Quite confusing actually
     
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    Like I stated in the original post, the striped one is significantly less active than the orange one and I haven't gotten it to eat yet. Is it possible the lack of bright orange coloring and stripe is actually a stress line and that fish isn't taking the acclimation as well as the other one and they are both males?
     
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    Update on my honeys:
    I usually dont name my fish except for my bettas but decided this quirky duo deserve a name because of how personal they are. The orange one is Banana and the paler striped one is Butters. They have come out of their shells a bit today, allowing me to come up to the tank without them darting behind the plants. They still have a little bit of trust issues but I think a few more days they will come around. I got Banana to eat some flake today when I fed the cardinals but Butters is still uninterested. I'm going to try daphnia and brine shrimp later but I really would like to get him to eat some veggie pellets so I can balance the protein in their diet. Butters is still a lot calmer than Banana, who constantly darts about the tank. Butters just hovers at the water surface and moves about slowly from time to time. Does anyone else experience this personality difference between different gouramis? It's like night and day between the twos activity levels. Butters's stress line has gone away quite a bit as well. Hes definitely a boy but its still up in the air with Banana, I guess I'll have to wait a few weeks to see how the dorsal fin develops. If anyone can shine light on the difference between their activity levels that would be nice.
     








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