First Big Tank

Discussion in 'Freshwater Beginners' started by cichlid234, Apr 17, 2017.

  1. cichlid234

    cichlid234 Valued Member Member

    Bout to set up my first 135 gal and never used a cannister filter. Inherited a penn plax cascade 1200. Any suggestions or links would be greatly appreciated. Lookin to do an an angelfish discus tank setup but goin to take all the time nessesary to season tank main concern is canister filter setup. Thanks
     
  2. BluMan1914

    BluMan1914 Well Known Member Member

    If I were you, I'd go with a bigger filter with more gph.
    I strongly recommend a Fluval FX4/6.
     
  3. TexasDomer

    TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    If you didn't want to buy such a large filter, you could use the one you inherited and add a second canister that, when used with the Penn Plax 1200, would give you the GPH you'd need?
     




  4. ChichLove79

    ChichLove79 Valued Member Member

    People with aquariums that are under filtered usually have to do a lot water changes.

    Just sayin' not an aquarium expert by any means.

    Discus look freaking amazing though.
     
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  5. lyfeoffishin

    lyfeoffishin Valued Member Member

    IMHO I would do a sump on anything over 100 just for ease and overall look of the tank. Most don't think sumps when it come to freshwater but it works just the same
     
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    cichlid234

    cichlid234 Valued Member Member

    What's the recommendation for gph everything I've read says it's good for 150 gal

    Also I would love to build a sump if it's cost affective
     
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  7. BluMan1914

    BluMan1914 Well Known Member Member

    For a 130, I personally wouldnt go lower than 500gph. Just on my 75 I will have close to 400gph. I will be running two Magnum 350's.
     
  8. lyfeoffishin

    lyfeoffishin Valued Member Member

    Sumps are pretty cheap if you are a little handy and build it yourself. Most expensive thing would either be the tank ($1 per gallon at petco) or the pump used to push the water back to the tank from below

    You could probably build one for around $100-200 total
     
  9. fishandle

    fishandle Valued Member Member

    What is the stocking is going to be? A dozen neons vs a 50 Africans cichlids makes a big difference on filter needs.
     
  10. OP
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    cichlid234

    cichlid234 Valued Member Member

    South American cichlids not gonna overstock

    Lyfe, what's a good place to order the mechanical parts pumps and stuff I understand building the baffles and how they work
     
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  11. lyfeoffishin

    lyfeoffishin Valued Member Member

    You can look on dr foster and smith website
     
  12. fishandle

    fishandle Valued Member Member

    Pretty heavy waste makers, I would look into additional filtration to add along side your penn plax. Probably another canister. It's always good to have 2 sources of filtration anyway, in case one breaks down.
     
  13. MaddieTaylah

    MaddieTaylah Well Known Member Member

    I love sumps, I actually used a heavy duty storage container for mine to save money. You either have to have a drilled tank or make/buy an overflow though which can be complicated.

    A canister filter is the easier choice.
     
  14. r

    radar Valued Member Member

    Filtration is not just a matter of tank size but a matter of how the tank is stocked. Just because , let's say ,you have a 55 gallon tank doesn't mean you necessarily need 550gph filtration if you are lightly stocked.
     
  15. lyfeoffishin

    lyfeoffishin Valued Member Member

    Overflows aren't hard to make just need pvc and basic knowledge
     
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    cichlid234

    cichlid234 Valued Member Member

    Thanks guys that's why I always come to this site when I start a tank
     
  17. TexasDomer

    TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    For discus, you want pristine water quality. Most of that comes through water changes. When they're juveniles, you'll be doing daily or every other day water changes. When they're adults, you can back off the water changes to 1-2 times weekly. However, filtration also makes up an important component, and I would aim for at least 7-8x GPH for a discus tank for canisters or sumps, personally.
     
  18. OP
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    cichlid234

    cichlid234 Valued Member Member

    So to get the water into the sump do I create a siphon? And then use a submersible pump to flow water back into the tank? Or two pumps.
     
  19. lyfeoffishin

    lyfeoffishin Valued Member Member

    Siphon/overflows are what most people do. When I do my next tank build I will just use an overflow. Mine will be made out of pvc pipes. Basically these sit just barely under the surface or the display tank and water can flow down into the sump from here. Submersible pump will send water back up to the tabk
     
  20. TexasDomer

    TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    I prefer a drilled tank to a suction overflow. It's generally considered safer. Can you drill the tank (or get it drilled)?
     




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