I found these at a store where I went to rehome my oscar. They were trying to come out of their cups to get to each other and the male next to one of them... I searched for an hour looking for an egg tube on both of them and couldn't find a trace of one. They have some serious attitude and I have to admit I have never seen a female that wants to fight so badly with its neighbors... I also have a video of these 2 going at each other...well trying to through the glass...but these are the best pics I could get. I went ahead and bought them mainly because...well I liked them...plus I didn't want some unknowing person getting it in their heads that they want to breed bettas and inadvertently put a short tailed male in with a long tailed male... Do these look female to any of you???