30 Gallon Tank Female Guppy Is So Big!

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I have my guppies for more than 1 year and they are so healthy. I have one female that is pregnant, but she is so big, and I think is her first time being pregnant.
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Oh my gosh she is humongous. She looks like she is pineconing... Am I right?
 
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edgardcafe said:
I have no idea!
I googled it and I have found
Dropsy/pineconing: This is not a disease, but it is a symptom of many possible diseases. This refers to a fish that appears to be more round than normal with a distended body cavity. The pinecone appearance is a result of distention of the underlying skin in a way that causes the scales to be flared away from the body.
 

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There are many things you can try to do to help, but they don't always help, and some involve needles but guppies are so small for that... I personally wouldn't do that method with her.

Things you can do:
Methlyene blue in a tank with her
Multiple epsom salt baths
Fresh water
Lots of places to rest near the surface as swimming will become difficult for her.

Invest in clove oil if you don't have it already.

I personally think she could possibly be pregnant and have dropsy, pregnancy making it far worse.
She is for sure pineconed at the top of her body, and is obviously masisve by the size of her tail.

With the baths, add normal meth blue to whatever tank or container you plan to QT her in.
Don't do a bath of that.
When you do the epsom bath, 1tbsp per gallon of salt, and then once the bath is over dump her and that into the qt with the meth blue.

You can try kanaplex, but dropsy is often a result of failing organs so kanaplex could possibly kill her.
You also don't want to treat healthy fish with it so you must qt her.
You must also watch other fish closely to watch for dropsy in them too.
Bloating is a bad sign.
 

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I agree that this looks like dropsy, not just pregnancy (although she could be pregnant and have dropsy at the same time.

Do you have an extra tank (with filter and heater) you could use to quarantine her? It’s best to medicate her separately so you don’t also medicate any healthy fish. Also, if you use methylene blue it will dye things in your tank blue so you probably don’t want to use it in your main tank.

A little more information about the tank can help us figure out what’s going on and help guide you in the right direction. What size is the tank and what fish are in it (species as well as numbers)? What are the water parameters, especially ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate? How often do you perform water changes and what percentage of the water do you remove, plus do you use a water conditioner for the new water?
 
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FiscCyning said:
I agree that this looks like dropsy, not just pregnancy (although she could be pregnant and have dropsy at the same time.

Do you have an extra tank (with filter and heater) you could use to quarantine her? It’s best to medicate her separately so you don’t also medicate any healthy fish. Also, if you use methylene blue it will dye things in your tank blue so you probably don’t want to use it in your main tank.

A little more information about the tank can help us figure out what’s going on and help guide you in the right direction. What size is the tank and what fish are in it (species as well as numbers)? What are the water parameters, especially ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate? How often do you perform water changes and what percentage of the water do you remove, plus do you use a water conditioner for the new water?
I have a 29 gallon tank with 14 guppies and 2 small gold fish ( they look like gold fish but I don’t think it is because I have them for more than 8 months and they’re still the same size when I bought) nitrite 0,nitrate 20ppm, and ammonia is 0 ppm. I have changed 80% water 7 days ago, and I have been using Prime conditioner every time when I changed water and never got a problem.
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When I feed them, she always eats, but
I don’t know that to do because tomorrow I’m going to travel and will be back after 15 days, in addition, I don’t have anyone to takes care of it, even though my friend will come to give some food, he won’t be able to take care of her.
 

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edgardcafe said:
I have a 29 gallon tank with 14 guppies and 2 small gold fish ( they look like gold fish but I don’t think it is because I have them for more than 8 months and they’re still the same size when I bought) nitrite 0,nitrate 20ppm, and ammonia is 0 ppm. I have changed 80% water 7 days ago, and I have been using Prime conditioner every time when I changed water and never got a problem.
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When I feed them, she always eats, but
I don’t know that to do because tomorrow I’m going to travel and will be back after 15 days, in addition, I don’t have anyone to takes care of it, even though my friend will come to give some food, he won’t be able to take care of her.
Do you have a walmart nearby? They should carry clove oil.
This will euthanize her.
I don't believe your friend would enjoy coming home to feed your fish and possibly finding her dead...
To be quite crass, she is only a guppy. But also, her suffering isn't worth it.
With how bad she is, a recovery would be long and hard, and even then many report they don't make it long after recovery.
My betta had dropsy, not nearly as bad, and I was able to remove fluids with a needle and help him.
But I don't believe the same is possible for your fish.
It is tough but I believe clove oil may be the best for her.
You can choose to try to let her try to tough it out, but dropsy is fairly serious and could kill her shortly.
I'm very sorry she is sick this is so sad..
I know you will choose which is best.
 
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Crazycoryfishlady said:
Do you have a walmart nearby? They should carry clove oil.
This will euthanize her.
I don't believe your friend would enjoy coming home to feed your fish and possibly finding her dead...
To be quite crass, she is only a guppy. But also, her suffering isn't worth it.
With how bad she is, a recovery would be long and hard, and even then many report they don't make it long after recovery.
My betta had dropsy, not nearly as bad, and I was able to remove fluids with a needle and help him.
But I don't believe the same is possible for your fish.
It is tough but I believe clove oil may be the best for her.
You can choose to try to let her try to tough it out, but dropsy is fairly serious and could kill her shortly.
I'm very sorry she is sick this is so sad..
I know you will choose which is best.
Last night before I had gone to bed, I setup a hospital tank with Methylene Blue and salt but ,this morning, she looks the same as yesterday.
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She has until midday to recover before my trip. Anyway, Even thought she is a little guppy, it is very sad to euthanize her.I don’t have clove oil.
 

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edgardcafe said:
Last night before I had gone to bed, I setup a hospital tank with Methylene Blue and salt but ,this morning, she looks the same as yesterday.
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She has until midday to recover before my trip. Anyway, Even thought she is a little guppy, it is very sad to euthanize her.I don’t have clove oil.
I am sorry you have to deal with this. If you don't have clove oil an easy way to euthenize is to smack her on the head with a hammer. I am sorry it sounds gruesome but it is painless and quick!
 
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I am sorry you have to deal with this. If you don't have clove oil an easy way to euthenize is to smack her on the head with a hammer. I am sorry it sounds gruesome but it is painless and quick!
! I have never done it! Let’s see how she’ll be when I come back from work, today around midday. Thank you for your help. I will post what I will do!
 

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I'm so sorry! Dropsy is a symptom of kidney failure, normally caused by a bacterial infection, which is why kanaplex is recommended. I've treated it once before with Kanaplex, but it was a much earlier stage, and it was a long and hard process. Unfortunately I don't think it's a good prognosis at this point. If she does pass, and you're up to it, you can try and dissect her and remove possible babies, though they may be underdeveloped and not make it. If you do plan on this, the clove oil may kill babies as well, and you would want to make an incision from the back and peel the skin down, then open the organ cavity. I'm so sorry, it's always difficult to lose a fish.
What temperature is your tank? And I hate to pile more on you at this time, but you do have stocking issues if you want to discuss them.
 

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I know this isn't even remotely funny but I just imagined doing that. First of all I couldn't but even if I could...a hammer? There wouldn't be anything left of the fish! I think I would use the clove oil. Actually I wouldn't do anything. Sounds mean but I couldn't kill a fish.

I'm really sorry about your fish.
 

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You could also put her in a tray of water and then in the freezer, her metabolism would slow down, she would go to sleep, and eventually die. Clove oil is similar, first it sedates them, then a larger amount will euthanize her, or some use vodka after putting the fish to sleep with the clove oil, and take a last drink at the same time as their fish
 
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Rtessy said:
You could also put her in a tray of water and then in the freezer, her metabolism would slow down, she would go to sleep, and eventually die. Clove oil is similar, first it sedates them, then a larger amount will euthanize her, or some use vodka after putting the fish to sleep with the clove oil, and take a last drink at the same time as their fish
Wow! I think this sounds much better than using a hummer ! I will put her in the freezer. Thank you for your advice!
 

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edgardcafe said:
Wow! I think this sounds much better than using a hummer ! I will put her in the freezer. Thank you for your advice!
I really am sorry you have to lose her, it's always difficult to lose one. You may also want to put something over the container when it's time, to prevent her from jumping
 

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Annie59 said:
I know this isn't even remotely funny but I just imagined doing that. First of all I couldn't but even if I could...a hammer? There wouldn't be anything left of the fish! I think I would use the clove oil. Actually I wouldn't do anything. Sounds mean but I couldn't kill a fish.

I'm really sorry about your fish.
Shrug.. I just clobber them. It's not pretty but it's proven to be extremely quick and painless. I know there is someone who cuts a vein.. scarface maybe??
 
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I have put my little female guppy in the freezer for less than 30 minutes, so she is gone !
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Thank you guys for all advices and happy holidays!
 

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edgardcafe said:
I have put my little female guppy in the freezer for less than 30 minutes, so she is gone !
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Thank you guys for all advices and happy holidays!
Sorry about your guppy.
 

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edgardcafe said:
I have put my little female guppy in the freezer for less than 30 minutes, so she is gone !
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Thank you guys for all advices and happy holidays!
So sorry your poor baby is gone.
Every time I see her I'm still amazed how big she is!
She was such a tough fighter! Very strong willed.
I know she lived a happy life with you <3
You did the right thing!
Now she won't suffer while you are away.
I hope you have happy holidays as well!
(As some say)
Peace be with you *hugs*
It's always very sad when losing a fish.
I often refer to them as people, I truly believe they as much a part of the family as other animals.
I lost two of my pretty bettas last night.
Unfortunately, I didn't have my clove oil either so I had to just wait it out with her.
She was dying from fungus growth over her gills. So sad.. I could have tried scraping the fungus off but it would've been back hours later.
SwI'm in peace our fishy babies. <3

I hope the rest of your week goes great!
 

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