Fancy Goldfish Tank Progress

GouramiGirl100
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Tank progress so far. Put the goldfish on hold at my LFS today! One panda telescope and one ranchu. Both are juvenile will upgrade tank when they get bigger. Waiting on my submersible filter and two bubblers. Tank is 36 gallons with black sand substrate and some fluorite underneath the center driftwood planter
 

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BigManAquatics
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Theplanter is nice, hope those aren't types of goldfish that like to destroy plants!
 
GouramiGirl100
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Theplanter is nice, hope those aren't types of goldfish that like to destroy plants!
I heard that swords are good to keep w goldies bc they are fast growers - I’ve had these swords for a couple of months and they’ve grown a lot for me so I agree. But yes I hope the new guys don’t decimate them haha
 
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GouramiGirl100
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Acclimating! Just brought them home :)
So slight issue. They were doing well in the bag, I did my usually acclimation or dripping water from the tank into the bag for about an hour. Then I gently scooped them out into the tank. The ranchu is doing great but the telescope is kind of acting erratically like twitching and swimming fast. I’m not sure if it’s just stress from being in a new environment or something else like flukes or anchor worms, but I don’t see anything
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GouramiGirl100
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Doing well :) no more spazziness. Made my filter flow lower and now they’re swimming happily
 

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GouramiGirl100
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Doing well!
 

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Zid88
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Have had my goldfish tank for about a year now.

I can say for certainty if you want your goldfish to look full and large like you see in pics of colorful well proportioned fancies you see? They require a lot of feeding. It's recommended 2% of their weight a day. And yes I do weigh them, I have 5 and combined 310 grams, so that is 3 grams of food each morning and evening, and I do weigh the pellets. Repachy I do 1% in powder which comes out to about same after making.

My 75 with 2 canisters is enough to keep up, but reality it's too small, I just don't have the space. Really should have a 6 ft wide tank, 120. Oh well. But breeders and afficionados usually recommend 4 ft wide as minimum. I had not really done my research as I prob not have gotten fancy goldfish knowing what I know now.

Just be prepared to upgrade massively if you don't want stunted fancy goldfish. I have seen a dealer/breeder, they get to 8-9 inches long and about 5 lbs. These are massive fish.

When you upgrade and you definitely should, I recommend going with over filtration with a sump or like me two canisters 4x recommended flow. In which case spray bar is amazing. I have full flow and goldfish have no issues with the flow.

Unfortunately almost all goldfish I see that are not of Asian community, the goldfish usually are stunted and look starved.

Knowing what I know now I prob not have gotten goldfish, but if I had the space would do 6 ft wide tank with a sump.
 
GouramiGirl100
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Have had my goldfish tank for about a year now.

I can say for certainty if you want your goldfish to look full and large like you see in pics of colorful well proportioned fancies you see? They require a lot of feeding. It's recommended 2% of their weight a day.

My 75 with 2 canisters is enough to keep up, but reality it's too small, I just don't have the space. Really should have a 6 ft wide tank, 120. Oh well.

Just be prepared to upgrade massively if you don't want stunted fancy goldfish. I have seen a dealer/breeder, they get to 8-9 inches long and about 5 lbs. These are massive fish.

When you upgrade and you definitely should, I recommend going with over filtration with a sump or like me two canisters 4x recommended flow. In which case spray bar is amazing. I have full flow and goldfish have no issues with the flow at all.
Thanks for the advice! I am planning to upgrade once they begin to grow a bit more. These are my first fancies so I was kind of I guess you could say, quarantining them in this tank for a few months to see how they do and how I do with them
 
Zid88
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It's a lot of work. I would avoid the North American advice for fancy goldfish, most of it is wrong as it's based on care for common goldfish. I would look to see what the Southern Chinese, Singaporean, Thai, Malaysians are doing as they are the premier breeders and groomers.

For example they are not cold water fish. I see you got telescope and ranchu, most of those are actually bred and raised in temps of 82-85F. And I am now firm believer warmer water with more active goldfish reduces illnesses and swim bladder issues for example.

Also good luck with telescope not injuring their eyes. It's usually a source of injury and infection for those breeds.
 
GouramiGirl100
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It's a lot of work. I would avoid the North American advice for fancy goldfish, most of it is wrong as it's based on care for common goldfish. I would look to see what the Southern Chinese, Singaporean, Thai, Malaysians are doing as they are the premier breeders and groomers.

For example they are not cold water fish. I see you got telescope and ranchu, most of those are actually bred and raised in temps of 82-85F. And I am now firm believer warmer water with more active goldfish reduces illnesses and swim bladder issues for example.

Also good luck with telescope not injuring their eyes. It's usually a source of injury and infection for those breeds.
Ok interesting I will look into that. I’ve actually heard some breeders here no longer classifying them as cold water fish. I live in Fl but I don’t use a heater their water is around 76-78 degrees depending and they seem to be doing well so far. Yeah I know about the eyes hopefully I can prevent any injury or at least treat it if it happens. I think they will be one of my most sensitive fishes
 

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