Fancy/common Goldfish Hybrid??

Ok, someone explain this one to me. A common/comment goldfish with a double tail like a fancy. It has a true, common shape, not squashed like the fancies, but double tail! So would you treat it like a common/comet (foot long, active, cool water, pond) or like a fancy (6-10", slower, warmer water)

I wanna shout out chromedome52 because I'm also kinda curious about the genetic/breeding behind that. They're such a different style of fish even though they *technically* are both goldfish breeds. Heck, I didn't even know commons and fancies *could* breed.




And this was a bunch of them, not just a mutant getting into the bag by accident.

 

I might be totally wrong, but my guess is that that is a Wakin goldfish.

 

I might be totally wrong, but my guess is that that is a Wakin goldfish.

Never heard of it before or even seen them on the "types of goldfish" lists I've seen on here. What are they classified as? Now I'm really interested.

 

Never heard of it before or even seen them on the "types of goldfish" lists I've seen on here. What are they classified as? Now I'm really interested.

It's a specifically bred type that seems to be beginning to get some traction. My LFS had some in a couple of weeks ago.

 

It's a specifically bred type that seems to be beginning to get some traction. My LFS had some in a couple of weeks ago.

I just looked it up. Could be. I think these guys were slimmer but I was just hooked on the double tail thing. They had them in their pond and from the size of some of the pictures the one was probably 10" long. They didn't seem slow so 'pond fish' category?

 

I just looked it up. Could be. I think these guys were slimmer but I was just hooked on the double tail thing. They had them in their pond and from the size of some of the pictures the one was probably 10" long. They didn't seem slow so 'pond fish' category?

If they are wakins, they're definitely pond fish.

Look into jikins too. That's another type with a common-like body and a double tail.

 

If they are wakins, they're definitely pond fish.

Look into jikins too. That's another type with a common-like body and a double tail.

Wow that's a cool colour pattern. White body with the red fins. Those guys seem a little shorter/chunkier. But I don't have a clue...

 

Wow that's a cool colour pattern. White body with the red fins. Those guys seem a little shorter/chunkier. But I don't have a clue...

They are a bit chunkier. But chromedome will probably come and say some sort of goldfish type I've never heard of in my life, so wait for them to say what they think. Lol

 

They are a bit chunkier. But chromedome will probably come and say some sort of goldfish type I've never heard of in my life, so wait for them to say what they think. Lol

You kidding me? I'm betting on it. I have to admit, that guy is brilliant when it comes to ID'ing fish. I remember a few months ago there was a fish ID thread for a while and a new guy got all offended that it ended up turning into a 'stump chromedome52' thread and they thought eveyone was ganging up on him. A few people had to explain that Chrome was a genius and what was so funny about the whole thing was how HARD it actually was to stump him. They did catch on after everything was explained.

 

Well, chromedome52 might know tropicals, but he doesn't know squat about Goldfish. I do know people who know about Goldfish, and the genetics of these things would give any sensible geneticist nightmares. Many have triple strands of DNA, not just two. Bet you didn't know that was possible, did ya?

To me, Goldfish are a step up from Flowerhorns for naming varieties. Most of the names come from China and Japan, where they were developed before we even came over to push the Native Americans off their lands. So there are rules, such as the color classes for Koi, and body and tail types for Goldfish. No one has tried to supplant a thousand year old tradition - yet.

 

Well, chromedome52 might know tropicals, but he doesn't know squat about Goldfish. I do know people who know about Goldfish, and the genetics of these things would give any sensible geneticist nightmares. Many have triple strands of DNA, not just two. Bet you didn't know that was possible, did ya?

To me, Goldfish are a step up from Flowerhorns for naming varieties. Most of the names come from China and Japan, where they were developed before we even came over to push the Native Americans off their lands. So there are rules, such as the color classes for Koi, and body and tail types for Goldfish. No one has tried to supplant a thousand year old tradition - yet.

As much breeding there is to come up with such different forms it wouldent surprise me that there was triple strands.

 

Petco had one of these guys in the 35 cent feeder tanks. He was so cute! I got him even though he didn't look too hot.
Unfortunately, he didn't make it through isolation and treatment.
I wonder if they get them in occasionally?
The store I work at never gets them, and I would love a few

 

Kay it's official. They're Wakin goldfish. Treat like pond fish apparently so big ponds for these guys.