Epsom Or Aquarium Salt For Betta With Fin Rot & Popeye?

Blueberrybetta
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  • #41
Ive had mixed replies about using salt baths to treat fungus and fin rot. My betta has fin rot it seems like and I already tried almond leaves for about 5 days now and I've done 2 aquarium salt baths so far.

has anyone had any luck doing salt baths? I don't know what else to do for hs fin rot. its been here for 2 weeks now, I can't get it to go away.

help please


single betta, moss ball, 2 swords, 2 snails, filter ,heater , 1 year

pH: 7.5
Nitrite: 0ppm
nitrate: .5ppm
ammonia: 0ppm
 

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Orion1066
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Ive had mixed replies about using salt baths to treat fungus and fin rot. My betta has fin rot it seems like and I already tried almond leaves for about 5 days now and I've done 2 aquarium salt baths so far.

has anyone had any luck doing salt baths? I don't know what else to do for hs fin rot. its been here for 2 weeks now, I can't get it to go away.

help please


single betta, moss ball, 2 swords, 2 snails, filter ,heater , 1 year

pH: 7.5
Nitrite: 0ppm
nitrate: .5ppm
ammonia: 0ppm

Hello there. I do not like to see anyone's plea for help to to unanswered. I can tell you that your water conditions are very good for your Betta. I also have a few moss balls (that I have to keep breaking apart ... they grow and grow) Lastly, I buy natural spring water and add 1/8 teaspoon of aquarium salt, and add the usual conditioners, to each gallon for future water changes. Things are stable, and Perry is happy,
 
Blueberrybetta
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Hello there. I do not like to see anyone's plea for help to to unanswered. I can tell you that your water conditions are very good for your Betta. I also have a few moss balls (that I have to keep breaking apart ... they grow and grow) Lastly, I buy natural spring water and add 1/8 teaspoon of aquarium salt, and add the usual conditioners, to each gallon for future water changes. Things are stable, and Perry is happy,

Yes I've been using spring water for his water changes now . I've been doing %30 percent water changes every other day , did one today, added water conditioner and then I gave him a salt bath in a 1gal with half a teaspoon to be safe and let him soak for 5 minutes . Hopefully these will help. How many times should I do them a day ?
 
Orion1066
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The salt baths are out of my league.
 
Blueberrybetta
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My betta has had fin rot for an week or so now, and it doesn't seem to be going away. Ive used almond leaves, been in the tank for 5 days , I soaked some and poured it into the tank as well.

I was told that aquarium salt helps with fin rot, is this true?. what can I do?? I don't want him to die . He won't swim as much and he has a white patch that's connected to his fins that turned white too.His fins lost color, but he is still eating. He isn't acting himself anymore

5gal, 1 year, moss ball, 2 swords, 2 snails, single betta, filter , heater.

pH: 7.6
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: 5ppm
Ammonia: 0ppm

please help! should I continue the salt baths or is there an medicine I can buy? thanks!
 

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CheshireKat
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You've already asked about salt baths three times, one of which was today. I gave you instructions on one thread. You will continue to get mixed advice on what to do because unfortunately there is little professional and official medical support for aquarium fish and most if not all of us here can only help each other from our own research, experience, and knowledge. Most of fish treatment is just guesswork as we are not vets. Without a sample and a microscope and knowledge of identifying the results, we cannot give you definitive direction nor diagnosis. There is often many ways to attempt to treat an illness, condition, or problem. Posting multiple times about the same topic will not change this.

That said, it will take time to see any results from salt baths or any other treatment. The time this takes will vary depending on many factors. There is no instant cure-all, just like with people. And because there's different ways to treat, it's hard to say, personally, whether or not to continue salt baths. Didn't you just start them?
I told you that you can try the Fungal Clear Tabs that someone else recommended if you want. I will not tell you to do so because it's not my fish nor responsibility to decide that for you; it's yours. I have no experience with it nor with your fish's problem; I can only advise you from the research I've done myself, which all vary on treatment as well due to the reasons I discussed above.
 
Debbie1986
  • #47
salt bath is for about 15 minutes in a separate bowl. You can use that time to clean the 5 gallon tank. I keep two 1 gallon bowls for just such emergencies. Read the salt directions. I think I used 1/4 a teaspoon in the 1 gallon bowl the 1 x I've had to use the salt bath. You can buy good bacteria to restart the tank. I'd also at least 10% water changes daily afterwards.

because you have snails, you must thoroughly rinse everything after cleaning it for the 5 gallon.

But, I'd quarantine him too until healed. it is supposed to help if they are calmer and can heal without stress. Good luck!
 
CheshireKat
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By the way, how many bettas do you have? Just this one?

Because you keep posting, it's gotten confusing for me to keep track of what's going on with your fish and for some reason you won't copy, paste, and answer the Emergency Fish Template which would give us lots of useful information to help you. You've started including more information on your topics, which is appreciated, but I personally
You've been given lots of advice so far across all your topics regarding the betta you suspect has fin rot. I'll take the time to summarize it because I do want to help you.

My 1 yr bettas top fin started to turn white/transparent and now some of his bottom fin is starting to turn as well.

His bright blue color is gone , his top fin is turning white/transparent and now his scales are turning white as well. He doesn't swim as much and his fins are always taunt . He is eating normal and he still greets me . I can tell something is wrong .

I've had him for a year now after rescuing him from a walmart

my bettas bottom part of his face is turning white. when I rescued him, his colors got really bright and he was so happy. He currently has fin rot I believe, so his color started to fade. I bought some almond leaves for him. so Is his face white from the fin rot or is it normal with aging or is it fungus ?
Fin rot affects the fins, as the name implies. If the body is affected, it's another type of infection or issue.

its hard to see the bottom of his face but its all white , just the bottom and its spreading to his stomach a little.
Is it fuzzy? Does it look slimy? Does it look like it's covering the scales or part of/are the scales?

I've done 2 aquarium salt baths so far.
You likely won't see any results so soon after only two baths.

His fins are the same length and shape from when I first got him
Then it's not fin rot nor injury.

He was at Walmart for a long time .
Maybe he is old. You've had him for a year and don't know how old he was when you got him.

Yes I've been using spring water for his water changes now
For how long? Before or after he started changing?

I gave him a salt bath in a 1gal with half a teaspoon to be safe and let him soak for 5 minutes
Maybe try longer but no more than 15 minutes. 5 isn't very long and you've only done two baths so far.
  • You've been advised to try IAL and water changes and have been doing so but don't see any change after five days or so(?).
  • You say it's been a week or so, but you first posted about this on July 23, so it's been going on for at least 2 weeks. Does that sounds right?
  • You asked about Kanaplex and was advised against it as it is a last resort antibiotic (I agree).
  • You've been advised to try to
    apply Methelyne Blue directly on the fins.
  • Have you been doing this?
    I recommend checking for dead plant matter and vacuuming the substrate, because there is often a lot of detritus.
  • You've asked about Fungal Clear Tabs. You can definitely try it if you prefer that to salt baths. It has good reviews on Amazon and the ingredients treat fungal and bacterial issues.
  • At this point, I'm not certain your fish is ill. He's older than 1 years old; how old, we don't know. He could be aging for all we know.
  • I do know he does not have fin rot if his fins and tail are the same as always. He may have something else going on... Or not. Thr fact that he's eating is a good sign.
 
Blueberrybetta
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  • #49
By the way, how many bettas do you have? Just this one?

Because you keep posting, it's gotten confusing for me to keep track of what's going on with your fish and for some reason you won't copy, paste, and answer the Emergency Fish Template which would give us lots of useful information to help you. You've started including more information on your topics, which is appreciated, but I personally
You've been given lots of advice so far across all your topics regarding the betta you suspect has fin rot. I'll take the time to summarize it because I do want to help you.








Fin rot affects the fins, as the name implies. If the body is affected, it's another type of infection or issue.


Is it fuzzy? Does it look slimy? Does it look like it's covering the scales or part of/are the scales?


You likely won't see any results so soon after only two baths.


Then it's not fin rot nor injury.


Maybe he is old. You've had him for a year and don't know how old he was when you got him.


For how long? Before or after he started changing?


Maybe try longer but no more than 15 minutes. 5 isn't very long and you've only done two baths so far.
  • You've been advised to try IAL and water changes and have been doing so but don't see any change after five days or so(?).
  • You say it's been a week or so, but you first posted about this on July 23, so it's been going on for at least 2 weeks. Does that sounds right?
  • You asked about Kanaplex and was advised against it as it is a last resort antibiotic (I agree).
  • You've been advised to try to
  • Have you been doing this?
  • You've asked about Fungal Clear Tabs. You can definitely try it if you prefer that to salt baths. It has good reviews on Amazon and the ingredients treat fungal and bacterial issues.
  • At this point, I'm not certain your fish is ill. He's older than 1 years old; how old, we don't know. He could be aging for all we know.
  • I do know he does not have fin rot if his fins and tail are the same as always. He may have something else going on... Or not. Thr fact that he's eating is a good sign.


Yeah I have just the one betta . Sorry its just people are saying all different things and I can't get one direct answer on what salt to use or how much and for how many days and I don't want to kill him so I'm trying to make sure . I never used salt before and I know bettas are sensitive so I don't want to harm him .

I'm new to this site so if my threads are all over the place, sorry.

His top fin started to lose color first . He was dark color then his fin turned a white/transparent when you look at him in the light . Then it went to his bottom fin , same transparent look but he had no holes . His fins look the same but he isn't swimming as much . He is a lighter color now . It did spread from his top fin (I assume) to the top of his scales (pic) I'm not sure if it's fin or body rot but the patch is white and no color on each side . I started using spring water right after I saw it , it's not slimy or fuzzy . It's like his scales lost color and turned a eggshell white but it doesn't look like fungus . It's been longer than a week now I know that

I haven't tried methelyne blue yet , I'll look it up . I can get the fungus tabs but I'm not sure if I should use medicine or go natural ?

His whole body when from a dark blue to a teal/red/white color . It's odd, I heard of bettas changing color but it's the patch & see through fins that worry me . It keeps his top fins taunt/clamped. But he is still swimming a little bit

By the way, how many bettas do you have? Just this one?

Because you keep posting, it's gotten confusing for me to keep track of what's going on with your fish and for some reason you won't copy, paste, and answer the Emergency Fish Template which would give us lots of useful information to help you. You've started including more information on your topics, which is appreciated, but I personally
You've been given lots of advice so far across all your topics regarding the betta you suspect has fin rot. I'll take the time to summarize it because I do want to help you.








Fin rot affects the fins, as the name implies. If the body is affected, it's another type of infection or issue.


Is it fuzzy? Does it look slimy? Does it look like it's covering the scales or part of/are the scales?


You likely won't see any results so soon after only two baths.


Then it's not fin rot nor injury.


Maybe he is old. You've had him for a year and don't know how old he was when you got him.


For how long? Before or after he started changing?


Maybe try longer but no more than 15 minutes. 5 isn't very long and you've only done two baths so far.
  • You've been advised to try IAL and water changes and have been doing so but don't see any change after five days or so(?).
  • You say it's been a week or so, but you first posted about this on July 23, so it's been going on for at least 2 weeks. Does that sounds right?
  • You asked about Kanaplex and was advised against it as it is a last resort antibiotic (I agree).
  • You've been advised to try to
  • Have you been doing this?
  • You've asked about Fungal Clear Tabs. You can definitely try it if you prefer that to salt baths. It has good reviews on Amazon and the ingredients treat fungal and bacterial issues.
  • At this point, I'm not certain your fish is ill. He's older than 1 years old; how old, we don't know. He could be aging for all we know.
  • I do know he does not have fin rot if his fins and tail are the same as always. He may have something else going on... Or not. Thr fact that he's eating is a good sign.

Please help if you can. This pic is from just now
 

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CheshireKat
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If it weren't for the fact that his fins are clamped and he's not behaving as usual, I'd say, don't worry about. I'm still inclined to say that in case it's age, but we don't know for sure so I don't want to dismiss this in case he really is ill.
My Betta actually did the opposite. He was primarily clear and white, and now it's nearly fully black. (Check it out if you want: Black Orchid Male Betta Color Transformation | Freshwater Fish and Tank Photos 414158) What's weird is that you've had him for a year; I had mine maybe a month when he changed. Typically they go through their normal color change young.

When did you notice this and for how long has it been going on before you posted? My Betta changed so subtly I didn't even notice it right away until one day I was staring at him trying to figure out why he seemed different, then I realized he didn't have nearly as much white or transparent fins as when I got him!

Yeah, I don't know. I really want to say he's just aging or that this is normal. The only thing stopping me is the clamped fins and abnormal behavior. But maybe that's unrelated?

When did he start to change in behavior? With the color change or after?
 
Blueberrybetta
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  • #51
If it weren't for the fact that his fins are clamped and he's not behaving as usual, I'd say, don't worry about. I'm still inclined to say that in case it's age, but we don't know for sure so I don't want to dismiss this in case he really is ill.
My Betta actually did the opposite. He was primarily clear and white, and now it's nearly fully black. (Check it out if you want: Black Orchid Male Betta Color Transformation | Freshwater Fish and Tank Photos 414158) What's weird is that you've had him for a year; I had mine maybe a month when he changed. Typically they go through their normal color change young.

When did you notice this and for how long has it been going on before you posted? My Betta changed so subtly I didn't even notice it right away until one day I was staring at him trying to figure out why he seemed different, then I realized he didn't have nearly as much white or transparent fins as when I got him!

Yeah, I don't know. I really want to say he's just aging or that this is normal. The only thing stopping me is the clamped fins and abnormal behavior. But maybe that's unrelated?

When did he start to change in behavior? With the color change or after?

I looked and found the site right after I noticed. The first picture is have is on 7/31 and it's been going a few days before that till now. It just happened sometime these past 2 weeks

This is the only epsom salt I could find that is fragrance free and I was wondering if this will work.

It says "fragrance-free epsom salt , saline laxative, soaking aid, naturally derived " made with "Magnesium sulfate". I've never used epsom salt before so is this the right kind ? I heard it can help with dropsy sometimes so I wanted to keep it on hand . Thanks
 
CheshireKat
  • #52
Yes. As long as the only ingredient is magnesium sulfate, you're good. You can get it at nearly any store, including grocery stores. Good to have on hand, including for yourself in a hot bath after a workout (or water changes)

Looks like your posts have been combined.
 

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