Epsom Or Aquarium Salt For Betta With Fin Rot & Popeye?

I just noticed my betta has a white ring around it left eye but not on the right . Is this fungus or the start of popeye ? I heard epsom salt help but not sure what kind to get . Anything to do or is this normal

pH: 7.5
Nitrate: 0.4ppm
Nitrite:0ppm
Ammonia:0ppm

He also has fin rot at the moment I believe and I have almond leaves to help . Anything else I can do ? Rescued him from a terrible, dirty cup from walmart .

 

I just noticed my betta has a white ring around it left eye but not on the right . Is this fungus or the start of popeye ? I heard epsom salt help but not sure what kind to get . Anything to do or is this normal

pH: 7.5
Nitrate: 0.4ppm
Nitrite:0ppm
Ammonia:0ppm

He also has fin rot at the moment I believe and I have almond leaves to help . Anything else I can do ? Rescued him from a terrible, dirty cup from walmart .

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What test kit are you using that measures .4 ppm nitrates?

 

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What test kit are you using that measures .4 ppm nitrates?

I use the apI freshwater test kit and my nitrates popped up at 0ppm and someone in another thread said to put it between 0ppm-5ppm because it was neither bright yellow or an orange. Hard to tell the ppm

Tank

What is the water volume of the tank? 5 gal
How long has the tank been running? 1 year
Does it have a filter? Yes
Does it have a heater? Yes
What is the water temperature? 78
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.)
3 snails, moss ball , single betta , almond leaves, 2 swords

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? Everyother day to treat fin rot

How much of the water do you change? %30
What do you use to treat your water? Water conditioner
Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? Both when I need to

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes
What do you use to test the water? ApI test kit
What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate:0ppm ( was told its low from plants?)
pH: 7.6

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish? 5 days , 2 fasting
How much do you feed your fish? 2 pellets , sometimes blood worms
What brand of food do you feed your fish?
"Bettamin pellets" " omega one bloodworms"
Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods?
Freeze dried
Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish? 1 year
How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? 1 week ago
In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? Fins are taunt , top & bottom find Turning transparent , spread to his body/scales, Not swimming as much

Have you started any treatment for the illness? Water changes and almond leaves
Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase? He was in a very very dirty cup with low water and old food so it's a possibility
How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? His colors have faded from a nice dark blue to an teal/white . Looks really off

 

I use the apI freshwater test kit and my nitrates popped up at 0ppm and someone in another thread said to put it between 0ppm-5ppm because it was neither bright yellow or an orange. Hard to tell the ppm

Tank

What is the water volume of the tank? 5 gal
How long has the tank been running? 1 year
Does it have a filter? Yes
Does it have a heater? Yes
What is the water temperature? 78
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.)
3 snails, moss ball , single betta , almond leaves, 2 swords

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? Everyother day to treat fin rot

How much of the water do you change? %30
What do you use to treat your water? Water conditioner
Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? Both when I need to

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes
What do you use to test the water? ApI test kit
What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate:0ppm ( was told its low from plants?)
pH: 7.6

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish? 5 days , 2 fasting
How much do you feed your fish? 2 pellets , sometimes blood worms
What brand of food do you feed your fish?
"Bettamin pellets" " omega one bloodworms"
Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods?
Freeze dried
Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish? 1 year
How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? 1 week ago
In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? Fins are taunt , top & bottom find Turning transparent , spread to his body/scales, Not swimming as much

Have you started any treatment for the illness? Water changes and almond leaves
Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase? He was in a very very dirty cup with low water and old food so it's a possibility
How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? His colors have faded from a nice dark blue to an teal/white . Looks really off

Did you know that with the API test kit, the nitrate test is a little different than the other tests. You need to shake the nitrate test solution bottle #2 vigorously for 30 seconds before adding it to the test tube, then you have to shake the test tube for another full minute after adding both solutions. THEN you wait 5 more full minutes before reading the results.

 

Did you know that with the API test kit, the nitrate test is a little different than the other tests. You need to shake the nitrate test solution bottle #2 vigorously for 30 seconds before adding it to the test tube, then you have to shake the test tube for another full minute after adding both solutions. THEN you wait 5 more full minutes before reading the results.

I know I did exactly that ! I went back and did it again. I waited past 5 mins a little and it still didnt change color . Someone else said its because of the plants. This pic is from 2 hours ago .

 

I do believe its the start of it... or so ive read

 

My betta fish has a white ring on 1 or both eyes it seems like . He currently has fin rot so maybe that's it? I've been treating him with %30 water changes every other day and I added almond leaves, do that help with popeye and fin rot ? What medicine should I use. I heard esposm salt works but I don't exactly know where to find it or what it looks like .

Tank

What is the water volume of the tank?
5gal

How long has the tank been running?
1 year

Does it have a filter?
Yes

Does it have a heater?
Yes

What is the water temperature?
78
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.)
3 snails , moss ball, 2 swords , almond leaves

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? Everyother day

How much of the water do you change?
30%

What do you use to treat your water?
Water conditioner

Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water?
Just the water . Getting siphon

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish?
Yes

What do you use to test the water?
API freshwater testing kit

What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: 0.5ppm
pH: 7.5

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish?
2 pellets a day

How much do you feed your fish?
5 days a week , 2 fasting days

What brand of food do you feed your fish?
Omega one bloodworms and bettamin pellets

Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods?
Freeze dried
Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish?
1 year

How long ago did you first notice these symptoms?
Fin rot for a week now , noticed ring around eye yesterday

In a few words, can you explain the symptoms?
Not swimming , fins are taunt , color loss/transparent

Have you started any treatment for the illness?
Water changes and almond leaves

Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase?
Not sure. Was in very dirty cup

How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all?
Faded colors , not swimming or active

My betta has white ring around his eye and I read it's the start of popeye . His eyes haven't popped out yet . People have said to use epsom salt to help treat popeye and fin rot. Is this the epsom salt I can use from a meijers ?

 

I also have tanks that always read zero nitrates, they’re heavily planted so that could be why. Maybe it’s time to start antibiotics if things seem like they’re getting worse. Do you know what may have started the fin rot? Even if you treat it usually there’s a reason it was brought on.

 

I also have tanks that always read zero nitrates, they’re heavily planted so that could be why. Maybe it’s time to start antibiotics if things seem like they’re getting worse. Do you know what may have started the fin rot? Even if you treat it usually there’s a reason it was brought on.

No I'm not really sure . He was perfectly fine till last week . I'm not sure what's happened .

Can I use this epsom salt (pic) for a salt bath and can you explain how to do one if you don't mind . I've never done one . I'll be getting salt tomorrow.
Thanks

 

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Several threads have been merged please only create one thread per topic.
It gets very confusing having multiple threads on the same issue & you may not get the best responses, members can better advise if they have all the information in one place.

I don't know what that means or how that works. Sorry I'm new here

Should I amuse aquarium salt or epsom salt for popeye & fin rot ? And can I add the salt to my 5gal with amazon swords , snails , moss ball or do I have to take him out into another tank ?
Thanks

 

Aquarium salt and epsom salt are two different compounds with different chemical properties.

Use epsom salt for brief salt dips/baths separate from the main tank.

A small amount of aquarium salt can be added to the main tank, but follow the recommended dosage guidelines so you don't add too much. The snails and moss balls would be fine, but I'm not sure about the amazon swords.

 

Aquarium salt and epsom salt are two different compounds with different chemical properties.

Use epsom salt for brief salt dips/baths separate from the main tank.

A small amount of aquarium salt can be added to the main tank, but follow the recommended dosage guidelines so you don't add too much. The snails and moss balls would be fine, but I'm not sure about the amazon swords.

Okay thanks . I read that you do a couple times a day ? Is that true? I feel like that would be too stressful . And how long do I do it for a whole week. I'm afraid of doing it too much and kill . Never used salt before :/

 

PS. Pop eye and fin rot both seem to indicate a larger problem with your water quality. To treat your betta effectively, you need to use frequent water changes to keep your water conditions pristine while he is healing. Salt can help speed the healing process, but it can't fix the underlying problems.

 

PS. Pop eye and fin rot both seem to indicate a larger problem with your water quality. To treat your betta effectively, you need to use frequent water changes to keep your water conditions pristine while he is healing. Salt can help speed the healing process, but it can't fix the underlying problems.

I've been doing %30 water changes every other day and I have almond leaves to help but the white ring popped up out of nowhere

 

Have you tested your water parameters? What do they look like?

 

Have you tested your water parameters? What do they look like?

pH: 7.5
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrate: 0.5ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm

Using apI freshwater master test kit

ive been doing %30 water changes in a 5gal for my betta fish and treating him with almond leaves. I read that you shouldnt do too many water changes because it takes away the good bacteria .should I do water changes everyday or every other day. I want the almond leaves to work because I read it will help with infections. should I let the almond leaves work because it didint really tint the water and its been 4 days. I feel like doing these water changes is taking out all the almond leaves and they won't work

should I try epsom salt baths or try aquarium salt ?

filter.heater.5gal. 2 snails. moss ball. 2 swords. almond leaves

pH: 7.5
ammonia: 0ppm
nitrate: 0.5ppm
nitrite: 0ppm

 

Every other day also.Aquarium salt. 2 swords may need to be moved to a bigger tank. But if they are doing fine then great. Also was their any nipping of fins. I have a 5 gal and have 4 glowlight tetras and a male guppy. And I have no nipping

 

Every other day also.Aquarium salt. 2 swords may need to be moved to a bigger tank. But if they are doing fine then great. Also was their any nipping of fins. I have a 5 gal and have 4 glowlight tetras and a male guppy. And I have no nipping

so I use aquarium salt? no one will answer which one to use and I'm getting it today so I need to know which one for sure , thanks.I am moving the swords to a 29gal, they grew quick over a year lol. Also I only have him in the tank and 3 snails. no other fish , no sharp objects, just a round home and live plants, betta hammock

 

ok

Yeah use aquarium salt

Sounds likke a good home

 

ok

Yeah use aquarium salt

Sounds likke a good home

one more thing , I read on the aquarium salt box that its bad for plants. should I put the salt in the whole 5gal with the plants or should I take him out like a salt bath?

 

Salt bath forgot to say that sorry

 

Salt bath forgot to say that sorry

okay thank you

ive been told to use aquarium salt to help treat a white patch my betta has and his transparent fins.

should I use aqarium sait to treat him (picture) or epsom salt. ive been told both so not sure which one to get.

when I do the salt bath, I read you should take him out into a 1 gallon and treat in a separate container 2-3 times a day and I feel like taking him out that long will stress him out and make things worse, or do I just put the salt into the tank? I do have 2 amazon swords and moss ball, heard it was harmful for plants

whats the best thing I can do for him? no one will fully explain and this is my first time using salt

I'm trying to treat my Betta fin for fin rot and a white patch on his body.

should I go with aquarium salt baths or should I buy " Jungle Fungus tablets"?

anyone have experience with salt and treating fin rot?

I'm trying to treat my betta fin rot and people have told me either epsom salt or aquarium salt. I do not know which one to use to treat fin rot .

He has a white patch in his body under his fin that's also white/ transparent and his bottom fin is turning transparent.

!!! Should I use epsom salt or aquarium salt bath??!!!!


Thank you!

 

Aquarium salt is the one used for fin rot. Epsom salt is used for bloat and dropsy.

 

No I'm not really sure . He was perfectly fine till last week . I'm not sure what's happened .

Can I use this epsom salt (pic) for a salt bath and can you explain how to do one if you don't mind . I've never done one . I'll be getting salt tomorrow.
Thanks

I haven’t done a salt bath before. When my Betta had fin rot I treated him with API furan 2, it’s an antibiotic. It would probably help whatever the underlying cause of the popeye is. I’ve never dealt with popeye, but it’s from swelling not an actual disease itself. So sometimes swelling can be from an infection. Fin rot is usually a bacterial or fungal infection. So more than likely he has an infection.

 

Aquarium salt is the one used for fin rot. Epsom salt is used for bloat and dropsy.

Thank you! For 1gal water how much salt do I use for separate tank for betta?

 

Thank you! For 1gal water how much salt do I use for separate tank for betta?

Is this a salt bath or added to the tank? If it's a bath then about 1 teaspoon of dissolved (IMPORTANT - make sure it's dissolved) salt per gallon. Leave for 3 to 5 mins then repeat two or three times a day. Observe him during this.

I don't usually like to treat bettas with salt though. Apparently they are sensitive to it. I've heard the use of methylene blue is better. I've never had to use either though. Do you know why his fins are like this? Your water parameters were good when you tested them, usually clean water would do the trick for bad fins.

 

Is this a salt bath or added to the tank? If it's a bath then about 1 teaspoon of dissolved (IMPORTANT - make sure it's dissolved) salt per gallon. Leave for 3 to 5 mins then repeat two or three times a day. Observe him during this.

I don't usually like to treat bettas with salt though. Apparently they are sensitive to it. I've heard the use of methylene blue is better. I've never had to use either though. Do you know why his fins are like this? Your water parameters were good when you tested them, usually clean water would do the trick for bad fins.

I'll be doing a salt bath because I have plants. I think I'll do half a teaspoon for the first time . I'm not sure either . I didnt test the water before I did the water changes so the parameters are from the water changes . His fins just happened out of no where

 

Okay, good. Definitely want to keep testing daily to maintain those parameters--that is the #1 thing. A small dose of aquarium salt is probably okay, but I would save the epsom salt baths as a last resort.

 

Id go with the tabs, aerate the water well while using them and afterwards

 

Okay, good. Definitely want to keep testing daily to maintain those parameters--that is the #1 thing. A small dose of aquarium salt is probably okay, but I would save the epsom salt baths as a last resort.

I just did his first aquarium salt bath with half a teaspoon instead just incase and he seems so be okay from that . I'll do another one tomorrow and hopefully it helps

Id go with the tabs, aerate the water well while using them and afterwards

What does "aerate the water " mean?

 

Put air into the water. Use an air pump or your filter/water pump to disturb the surface area as much as possible

 

Put air into the water. Use an air pump or your filter/water pump to disturb the surface area as much as possible

I feel like an air pump will stress my betta out because the filter already does

 

Have you tested your water recently?

If clean water isn’t helping on its own, I would go with the tablets as well. I don’t think the salt will help your Betta much in this case.

If you get a flow valve for the air pump you can control the flow to keep your Betta comfortable while still providing aeration.

 

Have you tested your water recently?

If clean water isn’t helping on its own, I would go with the tablets as well. I don’t think the salt will help your Betta much in this case.

If you get a flow valve for the air pump you can control the flow to keep your Betta comfortable while still providing aeration.

Yes I tested the water 2 days ago.

ph 7.5
Nitrite 0ppm
Nitrate. 5ppm
Ammonia 0ppm

I've been doing water changes every other week along with almond leaves . I just did his first salt bath today

 

The salt baths allow a higher concentration of salt for a short period of time without affecting the rest of your tank. For what it looks like you're treating, I'd use regular aquarium salt. Some plants don't do well with salt added, yes.
I'd do the baths because it's more confined, concentrated, and won't affect the rest of your aquarium. Salt doesn't evaporate out or anything, so any salt you add to your aquarium will remain in there. Only water changes will remove it depending on how much you take out. You'd have to keep track of how much water you change and only add that much of salt (so if you replace 5 gallons of salted water in a 10 gallon, you wouldn't add salt for 10 gallons, but 5, to prevent build up of salt).
With baths, you'd just dump out the salt water in the container after putting your betta back in his tank.

It's up to you what you want to do. He may get stressed being giving these baths, but if it helps with his condition...
Have you tried any medications that can be added to the aquarium first if you're not comfortable with doing these baths?

 

The salt baths allow a higher concentration of salt for a short period of time without affecting the rest of your tank. For what it looks like you're treating, I'd use regular aquarium salt. Some plants don't do well with salt added, yes.
I'd do the baths because it's more confined, concentrated, and won't affect the rest of your aquarium. Salt doesn't evaporate out or anything, so any salt you add to your aquarium will remain in there. Only water changes will remove it depending on how much you take out. You'd have to keep track of how much water you change and only add that much of salt (so if you replace 5 gallons of salted water in a 10 gallon, you wouldn't add salt for 10 gallons, but 5, to prevent build up of salt).
With baths, you'd just dump out the salt water in the container after putting your betta back in his tank.

Yeah I bought some aquarium salt and took him out of the tank because I have a few plants. He seemed to do okay. I was really slow . Do you know how long do go do the baths inbetween? People say to do it 2-3 times a day . Is that right?

 

Personally, I'd probably start with once, maybe twice a day and go from there. 3 times seems a lot to me for a fish not used to salt, but it might be necessary to treat him.
I edited my post; have you tried any meds that don't require taking him out several times a day?

 

Personally, I'd probably start with once, maybe twice a day and go from there. 3 times seems a lot to me for a fish not used to salt, but it might be necessary to treat him.
I edited my post; have you tried any meds that don't require taking him out several times a day?

I've been told about the almond leaves and salt before the meds but I heard "fungus tabs" help . Is that true ? I know taking him in and out will stress him more

 

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