Emergency- King Betta Is Sick

Discussion in 'Freshwater Fish Disease' started by tpreciado5, Mar 20, 2019.

  1. tpreciado5New MemberMember


    What is the water volume of the tank?
    --5 Gallons
    How long has the tank been running?
    --3 Months
    Does it have a filter?
    -- Yes, it uses the Small Filters by Aqueon
    Does it have a heater?
    -- Yes, it has an adjustable heater
    What is the water temperature?
    --79 Degrees
    What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.)
    --Only 1 king Betta
    How often do you change the water?
    -- 2-3 weeks at a time
    How much of the water do you change?
    What do you use to treat your water?
    -- De-chlorinator when adding water to tank as well as when tank was first started. Also, recently we were recommended to use Stress Coat + with aloe vera, and Dr.Tims Aquatics "One and Only" live Nitrifying Bacteria
    Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water?
    -- I have not vacuumed substrate or water
    *Parameters - Very Important
    Did you cycle your tank before adding fish?
    --No, he was added in the first day.
    What do you use to test the water?
    --API Full test kit (Ammonia, PH, HR PH, Nitrates, Nitrites)
    What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

    Ammonia: Between 0-.25. (Note: Closer to 0 than yesterday.)
    pH: ~7.2

    How often do you feed your fish?
    --We fed him everyday but made the mistake of using Freeze Dried bloods worms that are not frozen. We have switched him over to more common Betta Pellets we use for our other Bettas.
    How much do you feed your fish?
    -- We fed him 4-6 medium/large size bloodworms a day, and now feed him 4-5 pellets due to him being a King Betta
    What brand of food do you feed your fish?
    --Betta Bio Gold (only within the last few days) and San Francisco Bay Brand Freeze Dried Betta Food (His Primary Diet for the last 3 months of ownership
    Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods?
    --Freeze Dried Food
    Illness & Symptoms
    How long have you had this fish?
    -- 2-3 months
    How long ago did you first notice these symptoms?
    --roughly one week ago
    In a few words, can you explain the symptoms?
    --Loss of Color, Swimming Vertically, Constantly Resting in plants or on floor/ decorations. (Slightly falls sideways when laying down, Fins are slightly Deteriorating (Very slightly), does not Flare fins anymore.
    Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase?
    How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all?
    -- Lethargic within the last week, and constantly resting. He was very active and happy prior.

    Explain your emergency situation in detail. (Please give a clear explanation of what is going on, include details from the beginning of the illness leading up to now)
    --He has been a very happy Betta the entire time we've owned him. He was very active his entire 3 months with us. Within the last 6-8 days, we have replaced his bio-filter which we never really have done before. (In the past, we have rinsed his filters off, and put them back in). His ammonia levels were between 0-.25 but we have never experienced ammonia in the tank prior. His PH level was around 7.6-7.8 when we tested it yesterday as well. Nitrates and Nitrites were at 0. A local fish expert yesterday, told us that the Bio-Filter bags that we threw away had majority of the beneficial bacteria that his tank needed. So, as of yesterday, we put in the Aloe Vera Medication, as well as added a Beneficial Bacteria and a Bio Max Filter into his Filter Case. It was recommended to do so to colonize new bacteria. The first few days, we saw him laying down more often, and being more lazy than usual. We looked up what could be causing him to be lazy, and a lot of websites were saying that he could just be lazy. So we gave it a few more days, and it has progressed to this. He is laying on the bottom of the tank as we speak, almost falling over (Not laying upright like normal), and is slightly becoming discolored. We believe he has lost a small amount of his fins, but haven't any signs of bacterial infections in him or the water otherwise. Yesterday, we added the beneficial bacteria and the aloe vera to hopefully stress him out less due to the ammonia burns. I have owned 3 Bettas in the past that were over 3-4 years old, and I would hate to see this guy go. He is 1 of 3 bettas we have, and he has a lot of personality, and the sad part is that you can tell he WANTS to be okay, and normal. We're looking for the next step to see what we can do.

    Also, an important note. We want to get him out of his tank. His tank is a Petco Brand 5 gallon tank with a shoddy filter that doesn't work too well, and we bought an Imaginitarium 6.8 Gallon LED tank to do our first live freshwater setup, as well as it has a much better 3 step filter that we hope is going to make his life easier. BUT before we do that, we want to make sure that he is stable before we put him through any change.

  2. faithless1New MemberMember

    probably ammonia indeed.. very toxic.. if you have other tanks with running ok biomedia.. use part of their media asap in your filter for this guy as it will seed the beneficial bacteria.. do also lots of waterchanges with dechlorinated water

    edit I usually advice using also ceramic rings in your filters to help keep beneficial bacteria in when you throw away those cartridge type biobags etc. never clean bio media under tapwater.. only get debris off with aquarium water.
  3. tpreciado5New MemberMember

    Thank you very much for the reply. Our other tanks are the same brand, so they only have one of those rubbish bio filters in it. They will be moving into much nicer live tanks very soon as well. But by taking out one of theirs, would we run into problems in their tanks too? Also, is 10-20% water change daily okay for him? or should we do more or less?
  4. Morpheus1967Well Known MemberMember

    If you are getting ammonia readings, I would be doing water changes daily, at least 25%. If you don't already have it, get some Seachem Prime. It help detoxifies the ammonia and nitrites for approximately 24 hours, in addition to eliminating the chlorine.
  5. faithless1New MemberMember

    Last edited: Mar 21, 2019