AllFish21
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Hello!
So I recently added a pair of electric blue rams to my 75 gallon tank. They were inseparable and I never saw any kind of aggression toward each other. After about 10 days I added two Golden Rams. The day I added the Golden Rams one of the Blue Rams begin to act sick and she (I am guessing it was a female and the other is a male)... begin to "scoot" around on the bottom of the tank. After about 24 hours she declined rapidly and was laying on her side and then eventually passed away over night. I did a little bit of research and I read about Sudden Electric Blue Ram death which is just caused from a ton of inbreeding and things like that to get the desired color that they have. I am assuming that is what it was because I have a bunch of other fish in the tank that are all acting perfectly fine and my water parameters are spot on.
Temp: 82
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: below 10
Now ever since the female Blue Ram passed away the male has become aggressive toward the Golden Ram pair. He is about half their size but chases them around whenever they swim into his line of site and bumps them with his nose. The GR pair started very docile but are now starting to reciprocate the behavior, but never initiate. My tank is moderately-heavily planted so they are able to get away from each other so its not constant, but if they see each other their fins flair a bit and they chase for a couple seconds.
From my research, pairs of dwarf rams should to get along except for breeding time....
What I am wondering is, if I get the EBR another female will he stop chasing the GR pair? Are they just trying to determine the pecking order and it will stop? Will it get worse if I get my EBR a partner? Did I just get unlucky with a more dominant than average EBR male? Should I see if I can trade him for another more docile one at my LFS? I am aware that they are supposed to be kept in pairs, so maybe that's why he is so angry?
This is my first time keeping rams and they are beautiful and I would love for it to work out. I have another 10 gallon but it has a betta and just seeing the rams in the bag was enough to make him flair so I can't separate them at the moment.
Also, on a side note, I am treating my tanks for ich. If you guys think I should get him a partner should I wait until I am done treating?
Thank you so much in advance!
Pictured is my 75 gallon, and a close up on the bully EBR (the black on the fins makes me think its a male because the one that died didn't have that, but I could be wrong!)
(stocking is: 2 GR, 1 EBR, 12 cardinal tetras, 2 pearl gourami, 4 ottos, 6 corys, 1 albino bristlenose pleco, 3 zebra nerite snails)
So I recently added a pair of electric blue rams to my 75 gallon tank. They were inseparable and I never saw any kind of aggression toward each other. After about 10 days I added two Golden Rams. The day I added the Golden Rams one of the Blue Rams begin to act sick and she (I am guessing it was a female and the other is a male)... begin to "scoot" around on the bottom of the tank. After about 24 hours she declined rapidly and was laying on her side and then eventually passed away over night. I did a little bit of research and I read about Sudden Electric Blue Ram death which is just caused from a ton of inbreeding and things like that to get the desired color that they have. I am assuming that is what it was because I have a bunch of other fish in the tank that are all acting perfectly fine and my water parameters are spot on.
Temp: 82
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: below 10
Now ever since the female Blue Ram passed away the male has become aggressive toward the Golden Ram pair. He is about half their size but chases them around whenever they swim into his line of site and bumps them with his nose. The GR pair started very docile but are now starting to reciprocate the behavior, but never initiate. My tank is moderately-heavily planted so they are able to get away from each other so its not constant, but if they see each other their fins flair a bit and they chase for a couple seconds.
From my research, pairs of dwarf rams should to get along except for breeding time....
What I am wondering is, if I get the EBR another female will he stop chasing the GR pair? Are they just trying to determine the pecking order and it will stop? Will it get worse if I get my EBR a partner? Did I just get unlucky with a more dominant than average EBR male? Should I see if I can trade him for another more docile one at my LFS? I am aware that they are supposed to be kept in pairs, so maybe that's why he is so angry?
This is my first time keeping rams and they are beautiful and I would love for it to work out. I have another 10 gallon but it has a betta and just seeing the rams in the bag was enough to make him flair so I can't separate them at the moment.
Also, on a side note, I am treating my tanks for ich. If you guys think I should get him a partner should I wait until I am done treating?
Thank you so much in advance!
Pictured is my 75 gallon, and a close up on the bully EBR (the black on the fins makes me think its a male because the one that died didn't have that, but I could be wrong!)
(stocking is: 2 GR, 1 EBR, 12 cardinal tetras, 2 pearl gourami, 4 ottos, 6 corys, 1 albino bristlenose pleco, 3 zebra nerite snails)