Dwarf lion fish tank mates

Michaelwolfe92

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What would be okay for tank mates for a dwarf lion fish in a 30 gallon tank. I love clowns aswell but am I guessing he may eat them or will large clowns be big enough?
 

Cowfish928

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Possibly a dwarf angelfish of some sort. Maybe a scorpion fish or dwarf angler.
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Michaelwolfe92

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Il have a look!, would a pair of clowns be okay with a lionfish if I get him small and get them big
 

Cowfish928

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Yeah, as long as they won't be able to fit into his mouth!
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Are they aggressive, would I just follow and stalk the fish in the tank or would it only strike if it knew it could eat it? Dont want other fish stressed
 

Cowfish928

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They are peaceful creatures. But are predatory. So they will eat fish that can fit into their mouths. As long as the fish you choose to put with him are big enough not to be eaten, they shouldn't be stressed!
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
They are peaceful creatures. But are predatory. So they will eat fish that can fit into their mouths. As long as the fish you choose to put with him are big enough not to be eaten, they shouldn't be stressed!
That's great, I don't like a fully grown dwarf lion will fit a large clown fish in its mouth will it? Would you risk it?
 

Cowfish928

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They grow to around 7 inches. But they are slow growing. You might be able to keep him with a larger clown fish, you just make sure the lionfish is small. Then over time, as they grow together, the lionfish can realize and learn that the clown fish is a tank mate, and not food. Some of my predatory fish won't eat fish that are smaller because they know not to eat eachother. Also Lionfish are smart fish, they know their owners. And as long as you keep your lionfish well fed at all times, the clowns should be fine. But there is always a risk. Now, if I were you, I would take the risk. Also be careful feeding the lionfish. lionfish don't handle it well.
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
They grow to around 7 inches. But they are slow growing. You might be able to keep him with a larger clown fish, you just make sure the lionfish is small. Then over time, as they grow together, the lionfish can realize and learn that the clown fish is a tank mate, and not food. Some of my predatory fish won't eat fish that are smaller because they know not to eat eachother. Also Lionfish are smart fish, they know their owners. And as long as you keep your lionfish well fed at all times, the clowns should be fine. But there is always a risk. Now, if I were you, I would take the risk. Also be careful feeding the lionfish. lionfish don't handle it well.
When my tank is ready and I'm ready to buy my lionfish, my lfs said they can get me one of the yellow dwarf fuzzy lions really excited! What would be a good diet to feed and how often?
 

Cowfish928

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Well most likely the fuzzy dwarf won't be eating frozen or regular pellets. Only live foods. So you have to train him on to frozen foods. They will eat live Ghost shrimp. I hear that's what people feed them. Don't feed guppies because they have different nutrients. Depending on the size of your fuzzy dwarf, you should put 1 or 2 shrimp in then after he eats them, wait 2 days, then give more. It's not super easy to get them off of live foods, but lots of people do it. You can too!
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
Well most likely the fuzzy dwarf won't be eating frozen or regular pellets. Only live foods. So you have to train him on to frozen foods. They will eat live Ghost shrimp. I hear that's what people feed them. Don't feed guppies because they have different nutrients. Depending on the size of your fuzzy dwarf, you should put 1 or 2 shrimp in then after he eats them, wait 2 days, then give more. It's not super easy to get them off of live foods, but lots of people do it. You can too!
Okay no worries, the shop I go to will have to find one for me. If I was to have it with a pair if clowns would it be better putting the clowns in first and then putting a lion in that's fairly small?
 

Cowfish928

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Yeah

If you could, an anenome would help the clownfish feel safe, but that is costly. So I think you will be ok
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
Yeah

If you could, an anenome would help the clownfish feel safe, but that is costly. So I think you will be ok
Are anenome easy to look after?
 

Cowfish928

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You will need RodI water though
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
You will need RodI water though
I'm buying rodI water pre mixed with salt from my lfs, 25litres for £5
 

Cowfish928

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Then that's perfect!
Definitely talk to them about the anemone, because they might know more on that subject. This is awesome!
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
Then that's perfect!
Definitely talk to them about the anemone, because they might know more on that subject. This is awesome!
I know, I'm hoping a 25litre water change once a week in a 135 litre tank with a protien skimmer, uv steriliser and canister filter full of bio media and phosgaurd will be enough. Might even get 2 weeks out of it hopefully! Buying the water pre mixed is a lot cheaper than I thought it would be.

Do you think I should still keep my caniatet filter running ?
 

Cowfish928

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It should be fine. Just make sure you clean it a lot. Because it can become a nitrate factory!
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
It should be fine. Just make sure you clean it a lot. Because it can become a nitrate factory!
I I had a protein skimmer and 40lbs on live rock aswell as 2 circulation pumps I wouldnt even need my filter would i? I just want to keep it so I can keep my uv steriliser running as it keeps my water crystal clear
 

Cowfish928

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I would still use the filter, it is important!
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
I would still use the filter, it is important!
At the moment its for Freshwater so it has 3 sponges thick to thin and bio media, what would you put in if it was for SW? Isnt the live rock your main bio media for a Saltwater tank?
 

Cowfish928

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Instead of bio balls, or ceramic bio rings, for Saltwater, I would put crushed up live rock in the canister filter. And the live rock in the aquarium holds a Lot of bacteria as well. If you don't want to run the canister you don't have to! No pressure at all, it's your tank! I'm just saying if I were in the same situation I think I would use a canister.
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
Instead of bio balls, or ceramic bio rings, for Saltwater, I would put crushed up live rock in the canister filter. And the live rock in the aquarium holds a Lot of bacteria as well. If you don't want to run the canister you don't have to! No pressure at all, it's your tank! I'm just saying if I were in the same situation I think I would use a canister.
I'm going to keep it. My friend was going to give me his old powerhead but I don't know the power of it and I found out it was far too powerfull for my tank, it blew sand everywere even aimed higher. Oh and it was very noisy. Not all powerheads at that noisy are they. Its in my living room and I don't want that noise all day!
 

Cowfish928

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Hahaha that's funny, I have done the same thing, but in freshwater, it was way to strong and my sandbed flipped out. It sounds like you have a good plan going on
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
Hahaha that's funny, I have done the same thing, but in freshwater, it was way to strong and my sandbed flipped out. It sounds like you have a good plan going on
Thanks
 

Cowfish928

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I recently set up a 29 biocube, and it's a minI predator tank. It just finished cycling, I put a falco hawk fish in yesterday, and I plan on getting a fuzzy dwarf as well! Looks like we are in this together!
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
I recently set up a 29 biocube, and it's a minI predator tank. It just finished cycling, I put a falco hawk fish in yesterday, and I plan on getting a fuzzy dwarf as well! Looks like we are in this together!
What flow rate have you got on your power head? I tried my mates and it was like a sandstorm in my tank haha. I'm thinking of like 400gph
 

Cowfish928

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263 gallons per hour.
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
263 gallons per hour.
Ah sweet I might go for one like yours then. Is yours loud? I want one that's pretty silent
 

Cowfish928

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Mine is dead silent! And it's pretty small.
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
Mine is dead silent! And it's pretty small.
Can I ask what yours is called please
 

Cowfish928

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Hydor Koralia Nano.
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Sweet iv got that in my basket on the website
 

Cowfish928

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Awesome!
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928

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I would say the maroon clown would be ok, just make sure it is a good size! I don't know much about seahorses, but from what I have read, they are difficult. I wouldn't do it. Did you get your power head by the way?

You could possibly do a fire hawk fish or a falco hawk fish, one of those would be good with a dwarf!
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
I would say the maroon clown would be ok, just make sure it is a good size! I don't know much about seahorses, but from what I have read, they are difficult. I wouldn't do it. Did you get your power head by the way?

You could possibly do a fire hawk fish or a falco hawk fish, one of those would be good with a dwarf!
Il probably leave seahorses, iv just read maroon clowns can be quite aggressive. Do you think a startfish of some sort would be okay with a lion? I haven't got the powerhead yet no. Probs get it Friday.
 

Cowfish928

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Startfish? I'm going to guess you meant starfish!

Dwarf Lions usually don't bother them, and I even read some cases where if you get a dwarf lion when they are young, you can get them to live with shrimp, and apparently it's easier to get them onto frozen foods...(sometimes even pellets)

And I never knew that maroon clowns could get aggressive. That's a good thing to know!
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
Startfish? I'm going to guess you meant starfish!

Dwarf Lions usually don't bother them, and I even read some cases where if you get a dwarf lion when they are young, you can get them to live with shrimp, and apparently it's easier to get them onto frozen foods...(sometimes even pellets)

And I never knew that maroon clowns could get aggressive. That's a good thing to know!
Might go for a starfish then. Maybe get some large clowns and see how they do. If they all live together while young the lion might no its not food. Il be buying the lion young.
 

Cowfish928

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Ok that sounds good!
 

Cowfish928

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Hi. Michaelwolfe92
How is everything going? Any updates?
 
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Michaelwolfe92

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Cowfish928 said:
Hi. Michaelwolfe92
How is everything going? Any updates?
HI thanks for asking. I don't think it will be til after christmas now but I will do it defiantly sometime around jan-feb time I'm hoping. My birthday is in feb so I might ask for stuff to start it up! is yours okay?
 

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