Dropped My Black Moor! Important

  1. J

    Jason T Valued Member Member

    I literally feel like the S word. I was doing a routine water change however summer months make for hotter water I put them in a little side tank while I cooled the main tank down, its finally around 75 degrees. So I was gonna put them in little baggies like when I first got them and put them in the water for a half hour or so. I struggled to get the black moor out of the net and into the bag and he fell onto the floor, from my bathroom counter's height. So Naturally I gasped and freaked the heck out. I tried picking him up as quickly as possible and put him back in the quarintine tank. I waited a few minutes and put him successfully in a bag and into the tank. In the mean time I was watching and watching him because I knew I just hurt him. I noticed the worst thing.. His eye is now damaged. I don't know how severe it is he can still see me out of it for sure because he sort of avoids my finger in the water. But around the edge of his eye is a tear. I could only tell because his skin is solid black and there was a small copper looking flesh exposed. It appears his outer skin torn from the fall. Now I feel like a horrible person I want to cry for my little fish. His eye is even a slight bit misshapen now! I'm so horrible for not being more careful, Black Moor's already have enough trouble seeing now I'm scared his left eye is going to be useless. The actual eye isn't torn and he appears to be able to see my finger. However its a pretty nasty looking tear, He even has a string of skin spanned across the tear (that's how I knew it was torn.) I'm going to put him back in the home tank shortly and add a ton of stress coat. I don't know what's going to happen..He must be internally bruised. It was a 3.5 to 4 foot fall and he's just a little guy not even a year old.
     
  2. MrBryan723

    MrBryan723 Well Known Member Member

    Don't overdose on the stress coat. Also, small critters can usually take falls much better than larger ones. So aside from the visible damage theres probably nothing internal. The eye will heal in time.
     
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    Jason T Valued Member Member

    are you saying you think its just a small external injury? Just an outside cut? What about the vision, I'm worried for vision loss, even tho the damage doesn't look like its over the eye itself.
     


  4. MrBryan723

    MrBryan723 Well Known Member Member

    Reptiles regenerate, so odds are it will repair over time especially since goldfish can live for decades.
     
  5. bryangar

    bryangar Well Known Member Member

    @Goldiemom Do you think you can help him out?
     
  6. Goldiemom

    Goldiemom Well Known Member Member

    It all depends on if he received internal damage or not. I actually dropped a 2 month old baby a couple of weeks ago and he didn’t make it. I think an older one has a better chance. If it is just external, then keep the water super clean. You can add some Melafix to help in healing. For simple cuts/abrasions Melafix works fine. If no internal injuries, the fish should heal. Moving fish from the tank is never good for them and puts unneeded stress on them. Although 78F is warm, they can handle it. Mine is setting at about 75F right now. I wouldn’t reccomend doing it again. Good luck and keep us posted.
     


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    Jason T Valued Member Member

    I only did it because the tap was 91 degrees! I had to chill the water. He's swimming around looking for food seems to be doing fine. Minus the visual deformity, poor guy.
     
  8. RaptorBoy02

    RaptorBoy02 New Member Member

    Off-topic, but I took this sentence way out of context and was briefly very concerned. Hope the best for you and your fish, Jason.
     
  9. K

    Keith83 Valued Member Member

    My pearl Gourami did a 7 foot nose dive at Petco when I was buying him. He was dizzy and couldn't right himself for a bit. At first I told the girl I didn't want him but he fairly quickly righted himself so I made the call to keep him. Long story short the wound became infected and I had to treat the whole tank with Kanaplex. If you used Seachem stress guard they say it's okay to double up on the dose. Keep the water pristine and use the Melafix as recommened above. Hopefully that will prevent secondary infections.
     
  10. Goldiemom

    Goldiemom Well Known Member Member

    Oh gosh! I guess I should have been a little clearer.
     
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    Jason T Valued Member Member

    It appears to be healing already. Hes got a white film over that part of his eye identical to when he scraped it on the substrate a couple months back. I think it's the same eye too he's taken a beating there.
     
  12. OP
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    Jason T Valued Member Member

    So an update the eye looks normal no further problems but his eye is deflated. Will his eye ever reinflate again? Or is he deformed forever also if it does how long does it take to inflate. I also have no idea how to check if he's blind in that eye.
     
  13. Goldiemom

    Goldiemom Well Known Member Member

    Got a pic?
     
  14. OP
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    Jason T Valued Member Member

    He seems to be doing well I read goldfish particularly black moor fish regenerate vision cells like salamanders regenerate tails. Apparently fish regenerate fins sometimes as well? I hope in a month or two he won't have any problems although he seems to be doing great. A small update on my tank as a whole I managed to acquire my first apartment! And I keep it cool here in Arizona so much that in my last house the tank read in the 78-82 degree range! Now they live in a beautiful 72 degrees much much colder mostly to accommodate my black moor I set a median temperature for them. My black moor loves the water so much he appears to have sprouted into a man! He seems to be showing signs of breeding tubercles or whatever they are called. So I finally know it's gender. I read they really only show those when they are in a happy tank with a cold temperature. I thought it was fungus at first but it is in an identical Pattern on both sides of him and it hasn't grown or shrunk or spread to the other fish. So I'm taking it as breeding signs. He seems happy and healthy as ever. I swear they've doubled in size since I got them 8 months ago in the spacious 37 Gallon they reside in. I want to get them a new tankmate but I don't know what to get so I don't overstock. I was considering a frog of some sort but I'd have to create a land platform somehow in there I heard frogs and Goldies can live in harmony if you pick the right frogs. (Temperature wise of course frogs naturally like warmer waters)
     

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    Jason T Valued Member Member

    P.s. They need a big a** bubbler!! And something big to swim in/through the bubble wall I had broke in the move and I often find them comedically swimming hard into the filter power head and Being blown away by its force. The Goldie that liked to hide can no longer safely fit in the log shown in the background she used to swim in it periodically she's only done it once since she moved in here. Here's a video showing the breeding spots. You have to watch in 1080P my camera is bad you can see them right at the end of the video they're mostly on the edge of his fin but he definitely has 2 spots on his gills on each side
     
  16. Goldiemom

    Goldiemom Well Known Member Member

    Couldn’t see the spots. How old is he? I wouldn’t recommend a frog with Goldie’s. Only Goldie’s with Goldie’s. Either the frog will get eaten as the goldies grow or he will pick on them. Here are some pics of my Goldie’s. They are almost a year now. You can see the breeding tubercle on the males. The moor has already had babies.
     

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    Jason T Valued Member Member

    They look very similar I got him from a LFS a while back at most he's a year or a little over but now that I see yours it's definitely those they are identical specs
     
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    Jason T Valued Member Member

    The best I can do he seriously won't stop swimming he never does swims way more than the other. It's probably because he's small i imagine he'll get majestic with age haha
     

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  19. Goldiemom

    Goldiemom Well Known Member Member

    I love his eyes. He looks great!