Dog Sadness

Hey there everyone on fishlore
So this is very very simaler to the other topic I made a long time ago about my DAD!!! Hitting on my poor kittins (smacking,slap,spank) so now that we have a dog if it gets on the couch he grabs it by the collar and drags it off and then it couchs and spits out spit due to it being choked so hard when pulled off. I find it very sad and he also smacks it also occasionally if it gets on the couch still , and I told him you know you are not supposed to be pulling it from the collar right ? And he says , it's a dog I could buy 10 more if I wanted to and I said but you made it spit on the floor due to you dragging it off , and he said which infuriates me , that's why they made choke collars......I'm just getting tired of him always being so rough with these animals , even when a long time ago he was starting a five gallon he added fish a hour after the tank was filled and they did not live to a full week
Dead tank mates
Commen pleco
4 platies



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Hey fish time, that poor dog looks so sad, as a guardian of 2 rescued GSD's I can't understand why people choose to have dogs & then just mistreat them or any animal come to that. Guess there's not much you can do except to make sure you give the little fella lots of love & attention & keep it as safe as you can.

 

my dad is the sameway with our dogs. he yells at them over everything (even when there is no reason to) and is extremely rough. used to punch, kick a pug we used to have so bad that he had swollen ribs one time. my dogs cower in fear of him and he wonders why they don't listen to him and runaway from him. there really isn't anything I can do but he is getting better but still shouldnt have dogs. other then show them love and protect them when he is in one of his moods

 

Depending on the level of strength/violence you may be able to report him for animal abuse(would need video footage and such), but that’d also probably ruin your relationship. What I’d suggest doing is asking him to give you an opportunity to train the dog to not get on the couch, so when the dog does instead of him feeling like he has to discipline it you can go and train him. Also train him when your dad isn’t around so that this isn’t as much a problem. And of course give him lots and lots of love. Cute dog, hope this gets better soon.

 

Just a stupid question for you. Why do you even have ANY animals if all they are there for is to be abused. Please rehome your animals. A person who treats animals that way will never change. Please think of the poor animal pleas!!!!

 

I'm not the one abusing them , I love all animals , however if the dog gets on the couch that's mostly when the the abusing starts which I don't like plus this dog was over $1000!!!! I heard from my mom it's a rare dalmation since it dosent have black spots ( I can't remember the species though)so I definitely don't think my parents will rehome it apperently.....

 

No, I know you are not abusing your dog and I'm sure you love him very much. Maybe you your mom and dad all together can go to a training place like PetSmart and your dad can see the proper way to treat your dog and I'm sure he will be a lot calmer when he learns the proper way to command an animal without mistreatment. A lot of adults are like your dad. Things like this have gone on for generations. Your dad maybe saw his dad do it and so on
It's time for you to break the change of improper care for animals in your home try it what can you loose

 

Platylover & Dazy I can understand your concern & agitation over what fish time is saying but please don't rush to condemn, it's fish time's father who's being abusive to the dog (is fish lover really going to report their dad to the authorities???), he also doesn't sound like the kind of man that fish time could reason with so chances of getting him to agree to dog training classes are I would think minimal. I believe fish time is upset & has started this conversation to get a little empathy & sympathy, we should be kind.

 

Platylover & Dazy I can understand your concern & agitation over what fish time is saying but please don't rush to condemn, it's fish time's father who's being abusive to the dog (is fish lover really going to report their dad to the authorities???), he also doesn't sound like the kind of man that fish time could reason with so chances of getting him to agree to dog training classes are I would think minimal. I believe fish time is upset & has started this conversation to get a little empathy & sympathy, we should be kind.

Can you please tell me how I was condemning them? I was simply trying to give the options that are avaible, and yes, sometimes family does report family to the authorities. Not always over something like this, but if it is felt that intervention is needed and nothing else works then it can be a viable option. I was not expecting them to report them, that’s why I said I suggest a less extreme alternative of training the dog themselves.

OP, if I came across as condemning in any way shape or form, I’m extremely sorry. That was not my intention at all, I understand how sticky situations like this can be and will send prayers your way that it resolves.

 

Platylover sorry but to me your post came over as a little strong & I was just suggesting our responses to fish time should be gentle.......

 

although I understand this is sad. there isn't always something you can do about it because of your situation or age. rehoming isn't always as easy and simple as it sounds especially if your parents just don't want to do it. if I had the choice of getting a dog I wouldnt get one but I don't always get the choice my family makes it without consulting me about it. the op is still young so the situation is even harder then it would be if they were in their 20s or older

 

Seasoldier, I replied to a post. I said nothing wrong. I should be able to express my opinions if I feel I have something helpful to say. Everyone's opinions are not the same. We were talking about a person being abusive and I stick to my opinion and comment. Please do not criticise..

 

I think the best thing for you to do as a dog lover, is to make sure that there are less instances that would bring the dog into harm's way. That will mean training the dog to have house manners and to understand what is expected of it. You can teach the dog to keep its feet on the floor. Dogs should not wear chain collars unsupervised so I would take it off when it's in the house. Get a simple quick release collar to wear in the house if you want. Work with it in a positive way. However, dalmatians are often reactive dogs. I worry that at some point it will react to something done to it painfully that will be dangerous to it and to the human.

 

I'm sorry you're dealing with this. Since you're probably going to have a hard time changing the adult's behaviour, I'm going to give you some alternatives that you may be able to use to help.

1. Whenever you have a new dog or are training any dog, it's a great idea to have a really short (18" or so) leahs on them. If you need to grab them you can grab the leash instead of grabbing the collar. This will help to prevent them from getting head shy from getting grabbed by the collar repeatedly. You can use pretty much anything - a rope or string cut short and tied to the collar.

2. Give your dog a better place to be than the couch. Does the pup have a nice bed or crate? Make it nice and plush, throw a blanket that smells like you on it, regularly leave special treats in there for the dog to find so she starts associating the bed with good things and will want to spend more time there. Put it close to the couch so she still feels like she's with the family and not shoved out of the way. Try to replicate what she likes about the couch: warm, comfy, plush, smells like her people.

3. I'm a huge proponent off training your dog to do the behaviour you DON'T want them to do... but on command. By that I mean train your dog "up" and "off" (don't call it "down" which is usually used when telling the dog to lie down and would get confusing to her). Teach her how to jump "up" on something on command, wait there, and then jump "off" when you give the command. Make it a game! Make it fun! Have lots of treats! Don't use the couch as your training grounds! You can use pretty much anything you want to train on - a box, a bed, a chair, etc. Pretty good method for doing the training. If you can train the dog to know that when you say "off" she needs to get off the couch, you can demonstrate that to the adult and hopefully he won't even have to lay a finger on her to get the same result. And you'll probably get brownie points for training the dog to do something useful too!

 

Hi, I totally agree. I hope "Fish time" sees your post and takes your suggestions.

 

Hey there everyone on fishlore
So this is very very simaler to the other topic I made a long time ago about my DAD!!! Hitting on my poor kittins (smacking,slap,spank) so now that we have a dog if it gets on the couch he grabs it by the collar and drags it off and then it couchs and spits out spit due to it being choked so hard when pulled off. I find it very sad and he also smacks it also occasionally if it gets on the couch still , and I told him you know you are not supposed to be pulling it from the collar right ? And he says , it's a dog I could buy 10 more if I wanted to and I said but you made it spit on the floor due to you dragging it off , and he said which infuriates me , that's why they made choke collars......I'm just getting tired of him always being so rough with these animals , even when a long time ago he was starting a five gallon he added fish a hour after the tank was filled and they did not live to a full week
Dead tank mates
Commen pleco
4 platies

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Hey fish time
I understand this feeling you are going through, and I sympathize for you.
My dad doesn't really do this with my dog, but let me tell you something.

I used to own two dogs, a Boston Terrier, and a French Bulldog.
I lost the Boston two years ago for an unknown reason, with severe seizures. I've always owned a dog, no matter what the circumstances were. I still own my Frenchie, and he's a great dog. He listens to my dad, but he is very protective with us.

My advice is to do what BHK3 said, which is very helpful! I used to do this when my Boston was a puppy, she slept in a laundry basket.
If your dad starts to pull her off the couch during the day, take her out for a walk by yourself to give her some entertainment.

Dogs have feelings too, and their lives aren't any lesser value than of ours.

 

Thanks everyone for the supporting thoughts they really mean a lot and also I forgot to mention , this dog is very hyper and very excited all the time because , it's a lemon dalmation (rare) and it is very big although it's only 5 months old

 

fish time. Liver spotted Dalmatian. Basically brown spots instead of black.