Does My Betta Have Velvet?

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I'm pretty sure it does but I'm really new to this, hoping to God one of you more experienced peoples can confirm or (hopefully) deny that its velvet. First three photos are of it just about 5 minutes ago with camera flash on in medicated QT tank. Last two are of it yesterday in its regular tank with no flash. Also this is my first betta and I'm trying my best to learn and take care of it but things just keep going wrong so I'm sorry if it looks like its in bad shape even if it doesn't have velvet, would really appreciate any pointers on what to do.
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Nickthebettafish said:
I'm pretty sure it does but I'm really new to this, hoping to God one of you more experienced peoples can confirm or (hopefully) deny that its velvet. First three photos are of it just about 5 minutes ago with camera flash on in medicated QT tank. Last two are of it yesterday in its regular tank with no flash. Also this is my first betta and I'm trying my best to learn and take care of it but things just keep going wrong so I'm sorry if it looks like its in bad shape even if it doesn't have velvet, would really appreciate any pointers on what to do. View attachment 435147 View attachment 435148 View attachment 435149 and camera flash on
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Hi. So it's kinda hard to tell but velvet is like the opposite of ich, it will look like a covering of gold dust while ich is white spots. And I assume if your asking if your betta has velvet, your not sure. Sometimes it can just be betta's coloring then again sometimes it is actually velvet. In the future I'd highly recommend never putting your betta with medicated water for something he might not even have! Some medicine can hurt the fish as well as benefit but if it doesn't have the parasite it treats, it will just harm. Like melafix but then again that's not super effective I've heard. Anyways are there any more symptoms ? Usually there are more than one symptom, like not eating, ripped looking fins, laying on side and so on. Any of that or anything that a normal and healthy fish would not do?
 

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Hi. So it's kinda hard to tell but velvet is like the opposite of ich, it will look like a covering of gold dust while ich is white spots. And I assume if your asking if your betta has velvet, your not sure. Sometimes it can just be betta's coloring then again sometimes it is actually velvet. In the future I'd highly recommend never putting your betta with medicated water for something he might not even have! Some medicine can hurt the fish as well as benefit but if it doesn't have the parasite it treats, it will just harm. Like melafix but then again that's not super effective I've heard. Anyways are there any more symptoms ? Usually there are more than one symptom, like not eating, ripped looking fins, laying on side and so on. Any of that or anything that a normal and healthy fish would not do?
Once I reexamined the photo with the flash on ( a method to help spot velvet, does indeed look like he has it. So I advise get a good velvet treatment or a broad treatement that kills parasites including velvet. Keep water at a constant 81 and make sure water is super clean, add stress coat, and maybe almond leaf too if you have some. The most important part now is to make life hardest for the parasite, focus on making it harder for the parasite to survive off fish and then hit them with the treatment and that should wipe them out
 

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It doesn’t seem like he has velvet to me? It looks like his natural iridescence. Can we get a clearer photo with flash?
 
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WhatsUpGuys said:
It doesn’t seem like he has velvet to me? It looks like his natural iridescence. Can we get a clearer photo with flash?
Thats the best I can do with flash on my **** iphone camera. I think its velvet because he didnt look like that before, definitely the underside of his head has changed dramatically in a short space of time. He's also very lethargic, not himself at all.

Also he has now developed what I think is a cyst/abscess on its fin. This is horrible. I do water changes constantly I don't understand what I did so wrong. I feel so sorry for the poor guy.
 

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Nickthebettafish said:
Thats the best I can do with flash on my **** iphone camera. I think its velvet because he didnt look like that before, definitely the underside of his head has changed dramatically in a short space of time. He's also very lethargic, not himself at all.

Also he has now developed what I think is a cyst/abscess on its fin. This is horrible. I do water changes constantly I don't understand what I did so wrong. I feel so sorry for the poor guy.
Just do what you can and if he meant to make it then he will.
 

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My betta has the exact same weird gold/brown coloration under his head that yours have. I believe it's velvet and I've been treating it for about a month but the gold doesn't seem to be leaving... does he rubs himself on the side of the tanks? If yes, it's very likely to be velvet.
 
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WanhiBetta said:
My betta has the exact same weird gold/brown coloration under his head that yours have. I believe it's velvet and I've been treating it for about a month but the gold doesn't seem to be leaving... does he rubs himself on the side of the tanks? If yes, it's very likely to be velvet.
Yes I've seen him rubbing against the sides a few times.

The other thing that really has me worried is how heavily he is breathing even though I've put a decent size bubbler thingy in there as well, he goes to the surface to get air A LOT. It's not because of nitrites or ammonia, since my tank isn't cycled (sorry I didn't know any better at first) I do large water changes every day (I do make sure the temperature is the same as the tank water with a thermometer each time). My betta produces hardly any waste and I always gravel vacuum.
 

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Ok, here’s a simple and effective way to get rid of velvet. Works every time my bettas get it.

1. Blackout the tank. Cover the tank and make sure no light gets in. The velvet parasite it strangely plant-like and thrives in sunlight.

2. Turn the temperature up to 80 degrees F. This will speed up its metabolism and kill it faster.

3. Dose with API general cure. Works pretty well. Follow the instructions in the package.

4. Make sure to oxygenate the water well. Meds combined with warm water makes for a low oxygen environment.

5. Only let in light when feeding or quick water changes.

Leave the tank dark and covered for about a week or so. Best of luck
 
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WhatsUpGuys said:
Ok, here’s a simple and effective way to get rid of velvet. Works every time my bettas get it.

1. Blackout the tank. Cover the tank and make sure no light gets in. The velvet parasite it strangely plant-like and thrives in sunlight.

2. Turn the temperature up to 80 degrees F. This will speed up its metabolism and kill it faster.

3. Dose with API general cure. Works pretty well. Follow the instructions in the package.

4. Make sure to oxygenate the water well. Meds combined with warm water makes for a low oxygen environment.

5. Only let in light when feeding or quick water changes.

Leave the tank dark and covered for about a week or so. Best of luck
Thank you for the advice
 
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It might not be velvet after all.

Question - Mysterious Source Of Ammonia (tank Doesn't Even Have Fish In It). Can Anyone Help Me?

I spent last night calling vet clinics because I was on the verge of tears, nothing I was doing was working and I honestly thought my betta was going to pass on. Then I called an aquarium specialist and for some unknown reason he agreed to help me as much as he could, he said he usually charges quite a lot but seeing as I was holding back tears on the phone he must have realised how much I care.

I have followed his instructions and my betta is doing SO MUCH BETTER, he isn't scratching himself/flashing. There are no signs that he is itchy at all now.

He is going to call me today and let me know what I need to do next, when I sent him all the photos and a few more he said that it was possible the betta wouldn't make it through the night... but he did!!!!!
 
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WanhiBetta said:
Could I ask you what he recommended?
Get the betta into a fresh clean bucket of water with prime added, reduce feeding and clean the **** out of his old tank and filter media.

He said it isn't velvet.

I feel terrible, I checked params constantly and whenever they were even a bit high I would do water changes. Something happened which caused the ammonia to spike drastically high in a very short space of time.

I did a test where I left the tank with fresh dechlorinated water without the betta in it and no filtration and the ammonia and nitrite levels were up quite high within hours.

I always gravel vacuum so I don't know how this happened...
 
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