I bought eight neon tetra's yesterday and I was wondering if they would school with my ten ember tetra's just as they would school with other neon tetra's.
Not normally. Both species prefer to stay with their own kind. So long as the tank is large enough, they will school seperately.
They might be fine in a school that size, but if you have the tank space, you should increase their school. You'll see more natural behaviors.
I have 6 neon tetras and 3 ember tetras and they school together. I haven't seen any more embers for sale but will pick up three more if and when I ever see them again. Alison
That might be due the fact that your embers are in such a small group that they have to school with your neons because they can't school with a group of three.
My embers are in a group of ten and I just got those eight neons yesterday.
Now a group of eight neons is enough to form a school without participating in the ember school so maybe if they don't have to they won't do it.
I wouldn't add too many more. Your tank's middle/upper level is stocked. Maybe 2-4 more?
How are your kuhlI loaches? They're schooling fish too, and you'd see more natural behaviors with a few more. I'd add 2 more kuhlI loaches if you can.
Are both of your DGs male? They will fight to the death if they are both males.
If you just got them yesterday, I'd wait a few weeks to add more. Neons are notoriously sensitive and weak fish, and I'd make sure those survive before you get more.
A male and female DG together is great! Glad they're a happy pair.
If they're showing natural behaviors with 4, then you don't need to add more
I don't think it's because of their heart. Most are inbred for the hobby and are weak for a variety of health reasons.
The fish store guy says he get's all his stuff from Malaysia does that mean inbred.
Speaking of inbred (I know this is the neon topic) my Platy gave birt to a dozen of young and while she ate most of them and I gave some to the fish store I've kept three daughters. My male platy is certainly going to impregnate them, and that means inbred fry. Does that mean I will get fry without eyes or fins?
It means they are kept in such large numbers to grow out that they are overmedicated with antibiotics to prevent the risk of disease wiping out a sizable investment. Unfortunately, this means that they have no natural resistance to disease when moved to regular conditions. However, if they survive for a few weeks, they may develop the necessary resistance, and will be perfectly normal and healthy. All the "sensitive" comments are made about recently purchased fish that don't adapt to their new surroundings and die relatively soon. If they survive long enough, they will be healthy and normal. Captive bred Neons are not inbred by any stretch of the word.
No, inbreeding in fish is not the problem it is with mammals. There are even species of Cichlid from West Africa that show a preference for siblings even when given a choice between related and unrelated mates. If there is a genetic defect, it most likely will eventually show whether you breed siblings or not. Back crossing is often used to fix color strains by professional breeders. It takes many generations for any sort of negative effects to show themselves from inbreeding.
The fish store owner is flatly wrong. I've bred multiple generations of Swordtails starting from a single male and female and never saw a single deformity. James K. Langhammer, the retired curator of the Belle Isle Aquarium in Detroit, had a superb strain of hifin red wag Swords that he kept for over 30 generations. He stopped keeping track at that point, and continued to maintain the strain with no new blood for at least another 15 years.
Platies are not significantly different from Swordtails. Seriously, new blood can actually introduce genetic defects into a perfectly good line.
Maybe they saw the Embers and thought, "Hey, this gang knows the turf. Let's hang with them!"
One can never fully predict the behavior of fish. They will always surprise you.