do my frogs have the fungus?

allaboutfish
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my frogs have been even less active lately and have been floating in a ball at the top of the tank. they still eat and their skin doesn't look bad. I haven't seen them shed. do theg sound like they have it?
 
Lucy
  • #2
I don't see them in your aquarium information.
Floating all the time is rarely a good sign.

Tank size?
Tank Mates?
Ammonia, nitrite and nitrate readings?
Is there anything in the tank that might not be aquarium safe?
When was he last time you changed the water?
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
I don't see them in your aquarium information.
Floating all the time is rarely a good sign.

Tank size?
Tank Mates?
Ammonia, nitrite and nitrate readings?
Is there anything in the tank that might not be aquarium safe?
When was he last time you changed the water?
5 gallon
1 gardnerI biassa killi
let me get those in a sec
nope
wednesday
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #4
I have no idea how this happened but its ammo-.50, nitrite-.50m and nitrate- around 5. this tank has been cycled for a year and all the fish are alive so u don't know what happened did a 90% water change and added a 4x dose of prime.
 
Lucy
  • #5
I bet they'll be feeling better now that the water has been changed.
You know the drill.
Keep up with the changes until you get the cycle back.

Keep us posted.
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #6
ok will do.
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
today ammo-.25, nitrite-0 I didnt test nitrate added a 4x dose of prime.
 
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Lucy
  • #8
Hope you did a water change to go along with the prime.
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
should i? I thought .25 was harmless. I was figuring since its harmless in the first place and I added the prime that id just let the bacteria grow to accomadate whatever triggered the spike.
 
Lucy
  • #10
Frogs aren't fish.
Frogs absorb toxins through their skin. Throwing in some Prime in place of water changes isn't a good idea, imo.
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
ok ill do a 50% then. thanks!!!
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #12
done! my frogs almost gave me a heart attack. one sidnt move when I touched it with the syphon and then when I went to get it out it swam away. thanks for the help lucy. we will see if I'm in the clear tomorrow.
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #13
they aren't hanging out at the top anymore but my ammo test till shows .25. could it be too old and be innacurate? the manufacturing date is 12/10.
 
Cichlidnut
  • #14
You may have stated this earlier but are you using strips or liquid test?
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #15
liquid
 
Lucy
  • #16
With the older kits, the dates on the package was the date it was manufactured and expire 3 years after that date.

Since your frogs are acting funky, I'd tend to believe the readings.
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #17
well that's why I was questioning them. the frogs aren't at the top anymore.
 
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allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #18
today ammo is 2.0 and nitrite is 0!! I do not get this at all. today I'm gonna do 2 75% back to back water changes and take all the rocks and look for anything dead. I'm also going to clean the media with old tank water and remove any dieing plants, and replace the plants with healthy najas. tomorrow if the 10 gallon has cycled ill move the adfs to that tank.
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #19
should I move to them to a tank with an endler and cpds?
 
Lucy
  • #20
Wow!
I wonder if the dying plants is what is making the ammonia rise.
Do you have a nitrate reading?

CPD's are pretty small. I'd almost be afraid the frogs could grab one.
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #21
Wow!
I wonder if the dying plants is what is making the ammonia rise.
Do you have a nitrate reading?

CPD's are pretty small. I'd almost be afraid the frogs could grab one.

the java ferns were the ones dieing bc I just moved them in. I took them out and added some najas. hopefully their ten will be cycled tomorrow. it just has a minI cycle.
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #22
so before my vacation I moved the frogs to their own 10 gallon. I came back from vacation and theyre still hanging out at the top. I don't know if they are just lazy or what? I'm gonna test today. I'm pretty happy that I didnt lose them over the vacation.
 
frogbreeder
  • #23
I'm sorry, you might have already said and I missed it, but what temperature is your tank? ADFs will spend a lot of time floating just below the water's surface (or even worse, try to climb out of the water entirely), when the water is too warm for them (i.e. anything higher than 80'F. for prolonged periods is too warm). Also, if the water is too cool (i.e. anything below 72'F. for prolonged periods), and the light is on, warming the air above the water, they will stay near the surface to try to keep warm. Given that most of North America is experiencing a heatwave at the moment, more likely the water is too hot, if temperature is, in fact, an issue. If so, you might need to find a way to cool the water down a bit. As you know, excessive floating behaviour in ADFs can also indicate the presence of an infection or disease. Hopefully, it's just a matter of temperature. - frogbreeder
 
allaboutfish
  • Thread Starter
  • #24
my room does heat up to around 85 when its 100+ outside. the heater keeps it at 78 so its not cold. maybe it is a little too warm. its cooler this week so my room shouldnt get too hot.
 
frogbreeder
  • #25
Hopefully, your frogs will begin to behave more normally and spend less time floating, now the the weather is a little bit cooler. And, hopefully, their floating behaviour is not due to illness or other water parameters (nitrates, ammonia etc.). Where I live, in southern Ontario, it's been really, really hot lately and my frogs were also beginning to spend more time floating than usual. Although they were still eating normally, some of them were beginning to get lethargic. I've been using dechlorinated ice to cool the tanks for them, when it goes above 82'F. and they appear to appreciate my efforts. Usually, I'd just move my frog tanks to the basement, where it is very cool and run the heater to keep the water at 77-78'F., but I've recently moved from a house into an small apartment, so that's no longer an option. I guess, I might have to "borrow" my father's basement to house the frogs, if the weather continues to be so hot. In the wild, many species of aquatic frogs estivate in the summer to escape the excessive heat (that is, the opposite of hibernating in the winter to escape the excessive cold). They bury themselves in the cool mud at the bottom, near the shoreline where it is shaded, and become dormant, until the water cools back down to a comfortable temperature. I have to admit, this weather is making me want to estivate, too. Please keep us posted. We appreciate the updates. - frogbreeder

Addition - Regarding the use of Prime. I'd suggest using only the recommended dose rather than 4X, when doing water changes. Some dechlorinators and water conditioners contain emulsifiers, such as aloe, which are designed to enhance the natural slimecoat of fish. Unfortunately, these ingredients can be harmful for frogs, because they can disrupt the natural respiratory and osmoregulation functions of a frog's skin. I've used Prime at regular dose in the past and not had any issues, but usually I prefer to use AquaSafe, because our city's water supply contains both chlorine and chloramine.
 

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