Decaying plants

Discussion in 'Aquarium Plants' started by SilverMIssy, Aug 3, 2015.

  1. SilverMIssy

    SilverMIssyValued MemberMember

    Hello,

    So I think what's causing my ammonia to keep rising rather than staying stable and then falling is that I have this white cloudy looking matter I between the stems of my rooted plants which I'm assuming is decaying plant matter. The issue is I can't seem to get at it to clean it and my siphon is not small enough to suck it up.

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    What do you guys use? I don't have a turkey baster but I was thinking it may help.


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  2. Dom90

    Dom90Fishlore VIPMember

    Yes decaying plant matter and dead fish can cause ammonia to increase.


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    SilverMIssy

    SilverMIssyValued MemberMember

    Would a turkey baster be useful to get in those tight spots or is there something better to use?


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  4. aliray

    alirayFishlore VIPMember

    Yes a turkey baster works great for spot cleans and should be part of every fishkeepers tools. Much easier than trying to syphon out small stuff, IMO. Alison
     




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    SilverMIssy

    SilverMIssyValued MemberMember

    Just got a baster and cleaned up all the decaying material. Snipped any questionable plant leaves and did another 20-25% water change (did the same yesterday) because my ammonia is not coming down :/ I've double dosed both prime and stability so let's see how tomorrow's test results turn out. Fingers crossed. I know I have beneficial bacterial because my nitrites are climbing everyday. It just seems my ammonia is climbing faster than nitrites everyday instead of declining which I just don't understand. Let's hope my suspicion was right and it was all the dead plant matter.


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    SilverMIssy

    SilverMIssyValued MemberMember

    Ammonia is back up again! From .25ppm yesterday after the water change to .50ppm! Seriously! What the is going on. I'm out of ideas. I even increased the filtration system which my betta is not too happy about but what else can I do????!!!!

    My nitrites are increasing but the ammonia is not decreasing with it.


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  7. Dom90

    Dom90Fishlore VIPMember

    Does your betta actually looked like its distressed? Maybe its the Stability working and giving you some weird readings.
     
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    SilverMIssy

    SilverMIssyValued MemberMember

    No, not at all. No having breathing and happy as a clam. I have increased the filtration and think I'll keep it a tad faster since 10 gallon tanks are harder to keep stable (at least that's what I hear/read).

    Should I just let everything be? Stop doing the pwc and just keep dosing prime and stability?


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  9. Dom90

    Dom90Fishlore VIPMember

    Yes unless your fish is in actual distress, you shouldnt do anything... it'll just prolong the cycle and you'll basically be removing the Stability bacteria with the water changes. It takes time for the bacteria to adhere to surfaces! (Believe it or not)
     
  10. NinjaTetra

    NinjaTetraWell Known MemberMember

    How ling has the betta been in there? Maybe the tank isn't completely cycled? In my experience, the only times I can find ammonia is if I double the amount if fish ( which is something most people ever do once per fishtank) or if I change the filter padding, sometimes there will be a tiny brief spike, but my sponge filter usually keeps things in check. Maybe just dose prime, I don't see a reason to dose two different brands of ammonia neutralizer... Also, what out for the nitrites that will be coming


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    SilverMIssy

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    The tank isn't completely cycled. He's been in there for 2 weeks. First week I only did 1 water change as water levels where form.

    This week I've done 3 every day because the ammonia is rising instead of staying stable. I've been keeping a log:
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    SilverMIssy

    SilverMIssyValued MemberMember

    August 4 should say 20-25% not 30-25%.


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  13. NinjaTetra

    NinjaTetraWell Known MemberMember

    Keep that going, it sounded like it may not have been cycled. Do you have another tank or a friend who has tanks? If you can get some "seeded" filter media it'll be cycled in a couple days. Even a local pet store may let you have some, but probably not a chain store like Petco or Petsmart. Its the most simple fix. When I cycled my 37, I took the filtration packet of carbon and stuff from my 10 and put it in the new filter. I then moved my tetras over and it was cycled in like two days. I highly recommend that process.


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    SilverMIssy

    SilverMIssyValued MemberMember

    I'm using stability to seed. I'm doing to try and wait out the water changes and keep dosing prime to protect the fish. I think Dom90 is right; it takes a bit to get the bacterial to settle into surfaces and my water changes could be slowing everything down by too any frequent pwc before the bacteria has time to attach itself.


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  15. NinjaTetra

    NinjaTetraWell Known MemberMember

    Stability is alright, imo it takes longer. Good luck. If anything can stand a bit if ammonia its probably a betta!


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    SilverMIssy

    SilverMIssyValued MemberMember

    Btw, to answer your question about if I or friends have tanks, the answer is no lol. Didn't mean to ignore that comment.


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  17. NinjaTetra

    NinjaTetraWell Known MemberMember

    Its fine :) decaying plants shouldn't be the main ammonia issue though, so don't worry too much


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  18. pptNew MemberMember

    I think u are not providing essential lightings.
    Plus add some liquid fertilizers, and co2 (liquid) if possible.
    And come those brown leaves, so that new leaves may groe fast

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  19. Et tuValued MemberMember

    Just running this by you, could any plant roots be rotting? I have seen tanks with high ammonia and the cause turned out to be from decaying roots.
     
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    SilverMIssy

    SilverMIssyValued MemberMember

    I've cleaned out all the plants so all that's left is health leaves and healthy roots. I'll be keeping a eye on them though. Thanks guys. Btw lighting is good for these plants. They're very low light.

     

    It's the coral life 50/50 fluorescent.


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