Dealing with YouTube's Copyright Laws

Akari_32
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Why the heck is YouTube being such a pain!? (that's rhetorical, don't answer that ). I put a song on my video the same way as I have been the last few months (in iMovie when I put it together), and only now is it yelling at me that I'm doing bad, copyrighted things, and penalizing my account (whatever that means.). Usually its just like "Your video so-and-so has content that may be Copyrighted, but no action is necessary," but now it says this:

Dear Akari53,
Your video "Hand Feeding Rex", may have content that is owned or licensed by Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.. As a result, the video’s audio has been muted.
This claim is penalizing your account status. Visit your Copyright Notices page for more details on the policy applied to your video.
Sincerely,
- The YouTube Team

The only thing I can think of is this song (Ready Steady Go by L'Arc~en~Ciel) is in Japanese, rather than English, like the other songs have been.

Thoughts?
 
Cichlidnut
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I make my own tracks to put to my fish video's to avoid any issues. Don't use copy written songs and you won't have issues.
 
psalm18.2
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I wonder if You Tube is getting ready for that law the senate is trying to pass. Could be the song you picked is copyrighted.
 
Akari_32
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  • #4
I make my own tracks to put to my fish video's to avoid any issues. Don't use copy written songs and you won't have issues.

Well, duh lol, but I've been uploading songs by SugarLand, Disney, etc, and never had this problem.

I wonder if You Tube is getting ready for that law the senate is trying to pass. Could be the song you picked is copyrighted.

God I hope not >.< Can we just burn that stupid law and say it never existed? D=
 
sirdarksol
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It could just be that this particular video was noticed, while the others hadn't been yet.

Remember that, while you may just look at Youtube as a way to share with friends your videos of your pets or whatever, and you're including a bit of music you like, YouTube is actually making money on your video, and on the music. This means that they can be sued by Sony Music (or whichever music company.) YouTube is just responding to pressure they're getting from these companies, which are, in turn, trying to squeeze every penny out of their artists' music.
 
Akari_32
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  • #6
It could just be that this particular video was noticed, while the others hadn't been yet.

Remember that, while you may just look at Youtube as a way to share with friends your videos of your pets or whatever, and you're including a bit of music you like, YouTube is actually making money on your video, and on the music. This means that they can be sued by Sony Music (or whichever music company.) YouTube is just responding to pressure they're getting from these companies, which are, in turn, trying to squeeze every penny out of their artists' music.

Oh, they're noticed, its just that I get a different email that says that I don't need to worry about it, and they leave it be (I'll see if I still have the last one). But this one I'm getting "in trouble" for, and am being penalized. I'm kinda thinking its because this song was produced in Japan, and the others in America.
 
Akari_32
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  • #7
Heres another email I got the other day, on the first video I ever uploaded (like... a year or so ago). This ones a bit different than usual, too.

Dear Akari53,
Your video "Stop-motion video", may have content that is owned or licensed by IngridMichaelson, but it’s still available on YouTube! In some cases, ads may appear next to it.
This claim is not penalizing your account status. Visit your Copyright Notices page for more details on the policy applied to your video.
Sincerely,
- The YouTube Team

I bolded where it says its not hurting anything.

I don't have any other emails from them right now. I empty my inbox and trash can too often. But they'll say, something along the lines of "Your video has content that may be owned by *who ever*" and then it says no action is needed on my part.
 

Lexi03
  • #8
Perhaps someone from sony saw the video and complained?
 
spdrbob
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Depends on where the laws are broken or in effect. The technology has become much better in recent , think shasam , and they can identify more songs. Once you upload your movie they do have an option in the edit area to replace your music with a song they have rights too, there are quite a few.
 
angelfish220
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I've never included a copyrighted song on a youtube video, but I know a lot of videos have little 'no copyright infringment intended' blurbs in the drop boxes. Maybe if you started adding these to your videos it would help?
 
Akari_32
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
Perhaps someone from sony saw the video and complained?

No, I don't think so. The old video, the only way to explain that is they've gotten smart, and are screening old videos as well as new ones. The new video was "caught" during the uploading process.

Videos are screened as they are put up.
 
spdrbob
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God I hope not >.< Can we just burn that stupid law and say it never existed? D=[/QUOTE]

Although its so easy and available to trade music , imagine being the artist that put all the time into lyrics , music, advertising etc and having some using it for free. This is their job. However I see just using a snippet of a song you presumably bought in your home video. Technology is ahead of our ethics and laws.
 
Akari_32
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  • #13
Depends on where the laws are broken or in effect. The technology has become much better in recent , think shasam , and they can identify more songs. Once you upload your movie they do have an option in the edit area to replace your music with a song they have rights too, there are quite a few.

Yeah, YouTube gives you option to replace your song with one of theirs, but they all suck. I'd rather the video have no sound XD

I've never included a copyrighted song on a youtube video, but I know a lot of videos have little 'no copyright infringment intended' blurbs in the drop boxes. Maybe if you started adding these to your videos it would help?

I always give credit to anything that's not mine in my videos, in the description. If you open it in YouTube, you'd see it. I could caption or add a section in the video about it, though, since most people wouldn't want to open a video in YouTube when they can watch in imbedded one LOL
 
Slug
  • #14
Youtube uses a system that recognizes music automatically, much like the app on smart phones where if you hold the phone up to the speakers it tells you what song it is. So technically its a computer listening to your video and then flagging it as copyrighted material.

A lot of people earn revenue from youtube, myself included. And that's where your account being penalized really comes into play, your youtube account can be in a good or bad standing depending on how many of these you have. They use a strike system I believe, after X amount they will lock your account. For some its no problem, but for people with lots of videos it could be.

Change the song up, tempo, pitch, etc. Technically it won't be the released song anymore and should pass the copyright test. It would be just like a DJ doing a remix. Changing the song will usually not trigger the copyright police. However this is a thin grey line for some people. Another suggestion, and one I personally use and would suggest, is to find royalty free music, there's tons of it out there, all you have to do is give credit for using it. If you aren't putting videos up for revenue or commercial purposes, you might just check Youtube's audio swap feature and add a song from there.
 
Akari_32
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  • #15
Youtube uses a system that recognizes music automatically, much like the app on smart phones where if you hold the phone up to the speakers it tells you what song it is. So technically its a computer listening to your video and then flagging it as copyrighted material.

A lot of people earn revenue from youtube, myself included. And that's where your account being penalized really comes into play, your youtube account can be in a good or bad standing depending on how many of these you have. They use a strike system I believe, after X amount they will lock your account. For some its no problem, but for people with lots of videos it could be.

Change the song up, tempo, pitch, etc. Technically it won't be the released song anymore and should pass the copyright test. It would be just like a DJ doing a remix. Changing the song will usually not trigger the copyright police. However this is a thin grey line for some people. Another suggestion, and one I personally use and would suggest, is to find royalty free music, there's tons of it out there, all you have to do is give credit for using it. If you aren't putting videos up for revenue or commercial purposes, you might just check Youtube's audio swap feature and add a song from there.

Would removing the song remove the penalization from my account? (Not that I really care, just wondering).

Curious, how do you make money through YouTube? Kind of interesting.

I don't like when people change the pitch and stuff of a song. Ticks me off LOL So that's not something I'd do. There are songs that YouTube "recognizes" and links off to the side of the description, though. Good songs, not the poop they want me to replace my song (Ready Steady Go) with. Where can I find a list of those, do you know?
 
Slug
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I think the strikes are there for a long time if not permanent....Idk for sure though. If you got to your channel, then Settings, and then Manage Account you should be able to see your standing with youtube (either good or bad) and it should list any offenses and what not.

As for making money, not everyone has the option....not sure how its decided or anything. But at the same place where Manage Account is you should see a tab that says Monetization and a sign up process if its open to you. Basically whenever someone watches your videos they see an add popup and it generates revenue based on the number of views on the video, and if someone clicks the ad (accidentally or on purpose) it counts more. It really is fractions of cents if you aren't getting thousands of views, but hey.....free money right? $20 over 3 months is better then $0 over 3 months.
 
Cichlidnut
  • #17
I guess my use of addblock + is killing that. HAHA
 

Akari_32
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  • #18
I think the strikes are there for a long time if not permanent....Idk for sure though. If you got to your channel, then Settings, and then Manage Account you should be able to see your standing with youtube (either good or bad) and it should list any offenses and what not.

As for making money, not everyone has the option....not sure how its decided or anything. But at the same place where Manage Account is you should see a tab that says Monetization and a sign up process if its open to you. Basically whenever someone watches your videos they see an add popup and it generates revenue based on the number of views on the video, and if someone clicks the ad (accidentally or on purpose) it counts more. It really is fractions of cents if you aren't getting thousands of views, but hey.....free money right? $20 over 3 months is better then $0 over 3 months.

Oh, ok. I'll play around on there lol

Haha, my account is eligible for that. Tempted to do it
 
Slug
  • #19
I guess my use of addblock + is killing that. HAHA

Yep, and I'm totally against them. I've never run an ad block on my computer and never had problems....not sure why they are needed. And its not just because of my videos either, there are many people actually making a living off of youtube and it hurts them as well. You know you are hurting Mike and Fishlore when you do that too? He uses ads for this site to help foot the bill, like many of our favorite forums. But we won't get into that right now.

You might as well do it if you can. You just get money over time, once you reach $100, google sends you a check.
 
Cichlidnut
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How am I hurting mike by blocking ads on videos?
 
Aquarist
  • #21
Good morning,

I only use music selections provided by YouTube for my videos.

Ken
 
Echostatic
  • #22
I think it's funny how people get their little videos muted or removed, but there are lots of complete movies still hosted on YouTube.
 
Akari_32
  • Thread Starter
  • #23
I think it's funny how people get their little videos muted or removed, but there are lots of complete movies still hosted on YouTube.

Freaking right?? My friend just watched a whole movie on YOuTube last month, and I watch Criminal Minds on there all the time. In fact, I'm just waiting for last weeks episode to be uploaded
 
Slug
  • #24
Audio from music is easier to automatically detect then video. Video, I would assume, youtube does manually or takes a look at once someone flags the video.
 
psalm18.2
  • #25
I just watched a whole program on "viral videos" that are actually marketing ploys. I could see a problem with marketors using copyrighted music for advertising and not paying the artist.
 
Akari_32
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  • #26
I just watched a whole program on "viral videos" that are actually marketing ploys. I could see a problem with marketors using copyrighted music for advertising and not paying the artist.

Is this online? I'd like to see it.
 
psalm18.2
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Akari_32
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  • #28
Its bound to be online by now LOL Do you remember what the segment was called?
 
Akari_32
  • Thread Starter
  • #30
Cool thanks I'll watch it when I'm not in the commons LOL
 
pirahnah3
  • #31
I think it really comes down to who played nice with youtube and who didn't. In the end It seems that its all the larger companies that are causing the problem not the more indI labels.
 
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