DEAD GUPPIES!!!!!!

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HI everyone,I'm hoping you can help me out here.
When I heard that guppies are one of the most easiest fish to keep I decided to buy some and see how they went in my tank.I originally bought 4(3 males 1 female)And they all died off within two weeks.So I went and got 3 more.Two died off within a week. I checked the last one every morning.One night I noticed my guppy was writhing around and was sort of bent like he was having a fit or something and he died half and hour later.He was fine all day until that last half hour of his life.I can't understand what killed them all.Please help Me! ??? :'(
 
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sorry 4 ur loss! I lost 2 of my guppies out of 4 when I got them in2 my tank I think my tank hadn't fully cycled yet but the 2 that were left r doin so well there so active but u can get sum rogues in batches of fish in pet stores so u just hav 2 b careful which 1s u pick or it could b that ur water wasn't the correct pH or the ammonia level was high do 2 water changes within a few days that's what I did when I lost my 2 then just wait until u can get anymore fish 4 a week or so just in case the tank has 2 cycle again u may hav 2 wait longer until ur tank finishes cycling I hope this has helped u

they could of just been rogues, sick b4 u got them out of the pet store but it also sounds like it could of been ur water also
 
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I think when they bend it means there's not enogh oxygen in the tank - well that's what happened to mine a few years ago. Do youhave an air pump nt here? And how long did you let the water cycle?
 
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I think it could be just a myth that theyre hardy and easy to keep. Ive put around10 guppies in my tank over time and theyve all died apart from an orange coloured one. shes been in there about 4 months and seems fine. I'm going to try again now that my tank is balanced
 
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I, too, have purchased many Fancy Guppies, only to have them die. I only have 1 female Fancy left and she's fine. I actually switched over to Regualr (feeder) Guppies. MUCH easier to keep. As for Brydevil666's issue, more information would be needed to correctly assess the problem.
 
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There must be something about fancy guppies...I added two pairs to my tank and only one male survived. All of my other fish are just fine. Anyone who successfully keeps these little guys...how about some advice for us?
 
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the fancy guppies r hard 2 keep I read that sumwhere
 
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I didn't, but it's true! I'm now waiting for my feeder guppies to breed. They're suppose to breed like rabbits! But-nothing yet. I really am bad at this hobby :'(
 
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My guppies did the same thing as brydevil666 they bend a start to struggle. I should let the tank fully cycle.
 
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Are you sure that's not just swim bladder problems? I had a red finned shark a few months ago and it started swimming on its side and squirming about. I took it to the local pet shop and the guy said that it was because I didnt dip the fish flakes under the water when I was feeding the fish. basicaly the shark was gulping in air that was getting trapped in its swim bladder. I always dip the flakes into the water now and I don't have any problems.
 
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I'm surprised that so many people didn't have success with Guppies--I've always heard they were very hardy. I'll remember about the feeder Guppies if I ever want to get them. I'd guess the problems are due to too much inbreeding--I've heard that inbreeding has caused problems with some other types of fish, too, like Neon Tetras. brydevil666, we need a lot more information, like has your tank fully cycled?, and what are the water perameters (ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH) and temp.?
 
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Well I'm pretty sure my tank fully cycled and the temp is about 25 degrees.I'm really worried that I might have a diesese of some sort in my tank.I have 2 electric blue cichlids in my tank that I have had for about 4-5 months now(I got them young)and last night one of them started floating upside down.It looked dead.So I went to scoop it out and I noticed it was still breathing.So I left it there to see if it got better.This morning it was fine.I got home about an hour ago and it was fine.10 minutes ago I found it stone dead.I am really worried and I hope my two favourite angelfish don't die :'(
 
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Uummm

Hello...
I'm very new to the world of fish. The most I've ever owned was a Beta that lived for 6 years. I have 4 brand new Fancy Guppies--2 died the day after I got them home so I had them replaced--2 male, 2 female. I know they're going to breed, but I'm ok with that. I have a 2 1/2 gallon tank with a waterfall-under gravel filtration system. Everyone at the pet store said this would be sufficient to keep 4 guppies in.
Anyway, one of my males flipped out all of a sudden for no reason (he'd been in the tank for about 2 days) and proceeded to "play dead." Is this normal? I picked my dog up to let him see (he's jealous) and maybe he scared the fish?? I've had my water tested and I picked the healthiest-looking fish I could find and I've been trying my hardest to make them happy. Call me crazy, but I've even began playing classical music for them! (Hey, it's working so far). I was nervous at first because it didn't look like they were eating, but reading other guppy posts, I discovered that they normally eat after the people have left. If anyone has anything to comment about, feel free. I could use some advice. ^__^
 
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sorry for the loss of everyones fish its not a good thing to loose them when you love them so much

I hope anyone with isses reads this link..its sooooo important for all fish
https://www.fishlore.com/NitrogenCycle.htm goodluck!
 
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I don't know what could be the problem...it is true that guppies are not the easy going hardy fish they used to be. BUT, they are also not the delicate hard to keep kinda fish either. I have 7 adult guppies right now and I made the mistake of putting 8 in a not quite fully cycled 29 gallon tank. One died within 2 days and one looked like it was going to die..I did 30% water changes everyday for a week and It came around and is just about as good as new. I have had the tank up for about 12 weeks now and it is fully cycled Ammonia 0 nitrites 0 and nitrates about 20 ..ph is about 8 and temp is 82. I have many babies in the tank with new ones appearing all the time. 8 neon tetras , 6 albino corys and 2 amano shrimp share the tank with them. I have to respectfully disagree with whoever gave out the advise that guppies won't eat with you there as mine are like little pigs and are always begging me for food. ( or whoever else walks by the tank )and will steal the food right out of my fingers if I get them to close to the water. Not sure what advise I can give except to have good filtration..temp in high 70's to low 80's and good water parameters...hope you all have better luck and guppies are a beautiful and very charming fish with lots of personality...good luck
 
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Ive had some bad luck with keeping guppies from LFS. Its easier to buy a pregnant female and just keep her fry. The fry seem more hardy and less stressed because they are not raised in a store. But you have a very small tank so you would have to get a bigger one for what I suggested. I now have mostly fish I have raised 7 petsmart females and the the males have passed. I do have some nice males that are two months or so old and tons of females. Sorry lost my point to fish rambling.
 
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I have a couple guppies in my tank that are doing just fine right now.

I had a mishap where my parents decided to add 6 guppies in there before the tank finished cycling, and now only 2 of them are left. After the tank finished cycling I added 2 more females to the tank, and they haven't showed any symptoms of stress except when being chased by the male.

Guppies are good hardy fish to start with, but most of them will probably not survive a cycle. I believe this is because of how small they are, the smaller the fish, the more susceptible they are to bad water conditions for an extended period of time.
 
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oddly, my guppies are the only ones that have survived in my tank. I have three fancy tailed.. not named as I thought they might pass... I feed them generally once a day and alternate flakes and blood worms. they are happier with the blood worms it seems. I have a filter, but no airstones/pump. I keep the temp at aroudn 80 a little higher lately as I had an ich problem (which got all the other fish *pout*)

I was surprise, ich didn't get them, and they are all happy and healthy. that is about all the advice I can really give. I do water changes quite often (I don't have a vacuum yet, and I use my net to scoop out debris when I change the water, I have two real plants and two hiding spots...
 
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brydevil666 said:
HI everyone,I'm hoping you can help me out here.
When I heard that guppies are one of the most easiest fish to keep I decided to buy some and see how they went in my tank.I originally bought 4(3 males 1 female)And they all died off within two weeks.So I went and got 3 more.Two died off within a week. I checked the last one every morning.One night I noticed my guppy was writhing around and was sort of bent like he was having a fit or something and he died half and hour later.He was fine all day until that last half hour of his life.I can't understand what killed them all.Please help Me! ??? :'(
As easy as guppies may be they still are easy to kill too.

Do you know your tanks stats IE Ph Temp Ammo Nitrite Nitrate? Was this a new tank? Is it cycled? Did you rinse your stones and fitler b4 putting it in the tank? Were they petsmart or petco fish?

To keep a happy guppy tank you want this.

Ph 6.8-7.8
Temp 70-80
Ammo 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10-40

2 females for every 1 male

The petsmart petco thing is a personal pet haha pev of mine. I have had my tanks I have 3 currently a male a female and a birth tanks all cycled. A week ago I bought 4 fish at petco against my better judgment but they were so cooll looking I had to have them. took them home put them in a container added tank water to their bag water 1 cup at a time for 3 hrs then added them to the tank after 1 week I have 1 left alive the first 2 died within a day the 3rd 2 nites ago. Not a happy camper and I am kicking myself for not listening to myself. Atleast they have a 15 day return on all fish.


Also if you do get the tank set up and going and you get guppies that stay alive you will quickly find that having males with females you WILL have babies. Understand they can have 10-100 in 1 drop they store enough sperm to drop every month for 5-6 months without mating. Just something to keep in mind. I started with 1 male 1 female I now have 6 males in 1 tank 2 females in another tank with 57 fry 1 month old and 20 more fry 2 weeks old in my birth tank. And the mom that droped the 57 is due any day again.

Good luck and I hope you are able to get a lot of joy out of your guppies.
 
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1gamma45 said:
To keep a happy guppy tank you want this.

Ph 6.8-7.8
Temp 70-80
Ammo 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10-40

2 females for every 1 male
Er... Nitrate should ideally be 0 at all times. =\
 
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NewBKaeK said:
Er... Nitrate should ideally be 0 at all times. =\
This is untrue

Nitrate is good for fish at lvls 10-40

Nitrite is bad for fish at anything over 0

Nitrate is a helpful bact. that you want in your fish tank. If you would like I can link you any # of studies that show this. Here is one of many about the cycle and benafit of having Nitrates
 
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1gamma45 said:
This is untrue

Nitrate is good for fish at lvls 10-40

Nitrite is bad for fish at anything over 0

Nitrate is a helpful bact. that you want in your fish tank. If you would like I can link you any # of studies that show this. Here is one of many about the cycle and benafit of having Nitrates
Nitrate isn't a bacteria. It's the chemical compound NO3
Nitrates are beneficial to plants and algae, which may in turn be beneficial to fish. But it is most definitely not good for fish.

True, at low levels it is not harmful to fish, but keeping the nitrates at 0 will most definitely put less stress on fish.

Yes the article is about the cycle and nitrifying bacterium, but nowhere does it state that Nitrates are good for fish.
 
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brydevil666 said:
Well I'm pretty sure my tank fully cycled
What makes you say that? What are the actual water test readings?
 
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ahastings300 said:
I have a 2 1/2 gallon tank with a waterfall-under gravel filtration system. Everyone at the pet store said this would be sufficient to keep 4 guppies in.
Not even close... A 2.5 gallon tank is good for one guppy... Two if you do water changes often.
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I've had my water tested
...and what are yout current water tests showing now?
ahastings300 said:
it didn't look like they were eating, but reading other guppy posts, I discovered that they normally eat after the people have left.
Guppies are greedy little fish... They'll pick the food right off your fingers if you leave them in the tank. They aren't shy at all. Unless you are *REAAAAALLY* overfeeding them, they should all hustle to be the first to get the food right away!
 
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NewBKaeK said:
Er... Nitrate should ideally be 0 at all times. =\

Uhm... if you are keeping your nitrAtes at zero constantly, I would suspect that your cycle is having issues.

A working tank will always have nitrates simply because they are the result of the processing of ammonia and nitrItes.

In a perfect world, zero nitrAtes would be best, but in reality it's not a realistic goal.
 
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Dying guppies

It is heartbreaking to bring fish home and have them die within hours or days. I've raised and bred fancy guppies for many years and have found them to be very hardy and easy-to-keep fish so long as the water is not too "raw" for them.
After a hiatus when my husband and I traveled a lot, I recently set up tanks and jumped back into the guppy hobby with blue Moscow fry I mail-ordered from a prize-winning breeder. The shipper was supposed to wait until Aug. to send my fish, but he jumped the gun and sent them immediately. I made a rush trip to the store and was up until 2 in the morning setting up a 10 gal. tank. I used about 1/4 water I robbed from an established tank and added a product called Bio-Life to start the nitrogen cycle, plus a lot of live plants and, of course, a water conditioner.
Next morning about 10:30, my fry were delivered and I spent a couple of hours floating bags and slowly (1 c. at a time) replacing the water with water from my new tank. The happy ending to this story is that my new babies were eating within a few minutes and are still doing great and visibly growing after a couple of weeks.
Temp is about 76, and I use a gentle filter with cartridges, an regular aquarium hood with light maybe 10 hours a day. Only other critters in the tank are a large snail and a small Cory catfish. I live in nw Ohio, and we have naturally hard water on the alkaline side. Add a little aquarium (not table) salt to the water, too, for guppies.
Better luck next time!
 
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guys I ahve had this hapen it is Ich modifyded into the guppiesDNA so one of their parents might have had Ich then given birth and infected your fish try a new pet store
 
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I have 4 guppies, 1 male and 3 females. They have been in my tank a week and a half now and all the females are about to pop! Don't know what I'm going to do with that many babies. I have a smaller tank set up but I have to get a net to catch the females to put them in the other tank. Anyway, My tank (hubby's really) is probably nearing the end of the cycling and we have had no problems with the guppies at all. I don't know the exacts of the tank stats, but the ph is around 7.4 I think, very hard water, ammonia I want to say has gone down to zero but nitrites are still running low. They have gone through major tank changes as well and have had no problems. My hubby has completely rearranged the tank twice in the last 2 days due to getting in his live plants and driftwood..

The only thing I could say really is it sounds like you added the fish too soon or that your lfs is getting in sick fish.
 
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