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I started cycling a 55 gallon 2 days ago.I used the method in the Aquarium Nitrogen thread on cycling with a bacteria supplement and also used the Ammonia calculator for the ammonia dosage. On day 1 I followed the instruction on the Stability bottle and added 30mls along with 3mls of 10% ammonia.Day #2 I checked he chemistry and there was no trace Ammonia,Nitrite or Nitrates so I added 6mls of ammonia and 15mls of stability.Today I am coming blank again but my KN is running a little high somewhere around 125 and the GH is about 107.Later on I will dose and to try to find some ammonia. Should not I expect to see something by now or where am I going wrong?
 

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You should see an ammonia reading. Be sure of the percentage of ammonia in your ammonia. The bottle I found was not 10%. I had to google the brand and find the data sheet. It said .5-2.5%. I have austins clear ammonia.
The high kH and gh shouldn't affect your cycle; a low reading would/might. Have you tested your pH? Do you have a heater running? What brand ammonia do you have?
 
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The PH is 7.6 and the ammonia is Ace hardware`s 10% janitorial strength. I shook the bottle up and there is no foam .It almost smells like reagent grade,pretty strong.The heater is running at 84*
 
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I am using the API liquid test kit,it expires 12/21 so it should be good.I have a Cascade 1500 with 5 trays which has a sponge,floss ceramic rings,and carbon.
 

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I would dose a larger amount of ammonia if you aren't seeing anything yet.
 

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Hi, I'm currently cycling a 20gL. I was going with Stability and Ammonia as well, but for some reason, I got stuck in the ammonia phase. I decided to switch from Stability to TSS+ a week ago and I am currently converting ammonia to nitrite in less that 24 hours I got some great advice on another thread that you might find useful.

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I`m going to add 4 more ml`s To see if I can at least get some color in the test tube.
 

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You could add some 1 ml at a time and see how much it takes to get there. That might be a lot of testing though...
 
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I just looked at my log and I have added 25 ml of ammonia in thee days and the solution still isn`t yellow.I have been adding them @4mls .
 

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This seems so strange. I googled a bit about ammonia and didn't find much except that there is a chance that it could have evaporated if exposed to air for long periods, leaving behind water and possibly other toxins. I'm certainly no expert but if I were in your position I would get a different ammonia, do a 90% water change, then start dosing with the new stuff. I found pure ammonia at the dollar store.
 
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The one thing that could be happening is the filter is new along with the media so it could be trapping everything doing through it but that is just a guess.
 

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Letsfish said:
I just looked at my log and I have added 25 ml of ammonia in thee days and the solution still isn`t yellow.I have been adding them @4mls .
Back to basics just to check...

Are you using both ammonia test bottles?

If it's showing ammonia it should turn green, it's yellow if there's no ammonia.
 
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I just retested with the other bottle with the same result.As soon as I open the ammonia bottle you know what is it,it will open your sinus.

Another thing,when I first started adding water and I got about 3" in I added my plants.I wonder if they have anything to do with this?
 

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So are you using one or two bottles of ammonia test when you test...?

Just to be clear....(really not trying to be a pain but if this is easy to fix...)

When you test for ammonia you should add 8 drops of bottle 1, and 8 drops of bottle 2, shake vigorously for 5 seconds, then wait 5 minutes to read the results. Is this the procedure you are following?
 
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All of my tests have been with bottle #1 except for the last one which was bottle #2.
 

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Ok. Follow the testing directions I just gave you and I guarantee it's going to be 8 ppm. If you only use one bottle it never changes color.

You are going to have to do a 100% WC.
 
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It looks like I`m the pain I should learn to read direction better.I`m at least 8 ppm I guess I`m in for a big water change.Thanks for straightening me out
 

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Really I'm glad it was an "easy" fix. After the water change, test your water for ammonia. If it's still above 1 ppm do another one.
 
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Thanks ! so I guess I do the same with the nitrates also 1&2.
 

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