Crowntails more aggresive than Veiltails?

dennisbro
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I'm looking to get a betta, and some people say that crowntails are more agressive. Is that true or not. And how can I tell a more tame one at the store than the other bettas there?
 
Aquarium Newb
  • #2
People say crowntails are more aggressive but my crowntail is in a community tank. And there isn't really a way to tell at the store, its very hit an miss, you just have to choose a betta and keep very very close watch on them.
 
dennisbro
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
What fish do you have him with?
And what size tank?
 
Platylover
  • #4
I might be wrong, as I am just starting to keeping betas, but I think it depends on the beta. Since it's the same fish, just a different tail type. And in stores, honestly, I just let my heart decide. Beyond that, there's not much you can do to tell.
So I agree with Aquarium Newb
 
dennisbro
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
Yeah o guess so, just I want a more timid one for a community tank, that's why I want to know what fish aquarium newb keeps with his betta
 
Platylover
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Yeah, I want to know that to, as I'm thinking about getting shrimp or snails with my betas soon...
 
Aquarium Newb
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Yeah o guess so, just I want a more timid one for a community tank, that's why I want to know what fish aquarium newb keeps with his betta
I have a female betta, with 4 mollies and some zebra danio. People say not to keep a betta with colorful fish by my do fine with my mollies, I have an orange swordtail/molly hybrid, and three silver mollies. Sorry it took so long to get back, I didnt see that you replied lol
 

dennisbro
  • Thread Starter
  • #8
Oh no problem I'm not in a rush yet since my tank is cycling still.
 
Platylover
  • #9
Aquarium Newb you have a Molly sword hybrid? I though swords could only breed with platies and mollies only guppies?
 
dennisbro
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
Aquarium Newb you have a Molly sword hybrid? I though swords could only breed with platies and mollies only guppies?
I'm pretty sure mollies, platies, and swords are related which is why they can interbreed, but never heard that guppies can interbreed with mollies though.
 
Platylover
  • #11
It just interested me because I plan on breeding a hybrid livebearer and would love to use one of my male mollies with so female swords or do a platy sword breeding. It's odd, it's controversial on the sword and Molly, some say no they can't others say yes they can, but if Aquarium Newb has one, then I might just try it...
 
dennisbro
  • Thread Starter
  • #12
That's strange because I just Google searched it and it says mollies can't go with swords.
 
Aquarium Newb
  • #13
It just interested me because I plan on breeding a hybrid livebearer and would love to use one of my male mollies with so female swords or do a platy sword breeding. It's odd, it's controversial on the sword and Molly, some say no they can't others say yes they can, but if Aquarium Newb has one, then I might just try it...
Yeah I would try it, I got mine from my lfs which is family run and they had a female swordtail and a male silver molly, and they interbred. The only other fish in the tank were silver mollies and they has the swordtail for years so it hadn't stores sperm. It looks like a swordtail but isn't as big as a swordtail, it would be cool of you could breed them I would love to see some other hybrids! However just an fyI it may make them sterile, not sure but I haven't been able to breed my hybrid with my mollies.
 
Platylover
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Thanks Aquarium Newb! I'm planning on selling them and I figured one of the selling points could be that they are sterile since they wouldn't breed like crazy, that way people can have livebearers without having thousands... Whatever I breed I'll be doing a breeding log on here more than likely. You've got me excited, haha. Sorry for hijacking dennisbro, just had to ask about the Molly sword. And yeah that's why I was so surprised that Aquarium Newb has one.
 
Aquarium Newb
  • #15
That's strange because I just Google searched it and it says mollies can't go with swords.
Well it is a highly debated subject, there are a lot of people that say they can't and a lot that say they can, it seems to be hit and miss really but there are a lot of accounts of it happening.
 
raisin
  • #16
I would believe that crown tails are generally more aggressive than veil tails, as it is the case with mine.

Body type can definitely influence behavior. Some genes for appearance and personality are linked- a study showed that foxes, when bred for human-friendliness, eventually gain spotting/ white coloration and floppy eats along the generations. The less friendly ones kept their wild coloration. This is how we get a lot of colors in domesticated animals like mice, too.

In my mice breeding, I discovered that the rounder body-type mice are considerably more friendly and calmer than the leaner/racier ones.

It could be the case that the genes for vieltail are linked with calmer behavioral genes, and vice versa for crowntails. Not that my crownie is especially aggressive - he got on sort of ok with a little BN pleco. You should see what my "rose-tail" dragon scale did to those poor shrimps though.

A decent way to determine the friendliness of a betta in the store is to hold two betta cups against each other. If the betta really flares up at the other cupped betta, he's probably a poor choice. If he waits to flare or turns away, you might have a winner.
 
Platylover
  • #17
I think raisin has a point(a very good one to), I might now be on the side that crown tails are slightly more likely to be aggressive. I may or may not have a CT female(still young), and she would have killed 4 ghost shrimp within an hour. She's scary when she wants to be... But before I had them in there, I had them with my double tail plakat male and he would hunt them, and may or may not have killed one. I don't know if it was just bad stock or he's a murderer. But he was over all way more calm, he hides whenever I try to get him to flare. I'll bring a mirror and he'll go hide and peak at it. He's such a sweetie, he used to have a horrible swim bladder problem when I got him, took a week or two for him to heal, now he's gorgeous.
 
dennisbro
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  • #18
Thanks
 

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